[Zeronet]

Im sorry, but Obi Wan is not the best lightsaber fighter in star wars. This shouldnt even be the vote, it should be a topic proclaiming Yoda as the one with the best swordskills.

[Carl]

Originally posted by USS Alexander
No i'm asking who of you guys think is the emperor (in the last 3 movies)it must be someone in the republic...and i'm geusing it's palpatine, who is fooling the entire ****, he plays at 2 sides

yeah...um, dude, in the first movies they called the emperor "emperor palpatine", so, no-freaking-duh.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Stealth


actually in the books Mace was said to be better than Dooku at the lightsaber.  I think they even mention it in the movies (not sure though) when Anakin says (episode 2):

something about "the wisdom of master Yoda and the lightsaber skills of Master Windu"

*shrug*
I'm going off the Power of the Jedi book which said Yoda and Dooku were the only two known to best Mace in lightsaber combat ... I _think_ the new Esst. Guide to characters also stated it ...I'll check it in the morning since it's a bit late.

No biggy if I'm wrong thou

[Warlock]

Originally posted by mikhael


Old Net version? Man, that rumor has been going around since before RotJ was released. I remember discussing that in the SIXTH GRADE.

I've only seen that idea on Vader's origin online,... though I know it's been around for awhile.

[Vertigo1]

Originally posted by Carl


yeah...um, dude, in the first movies they called the emperor "emperor palpatine", so, no-freaking-duh.

Not to mention that its stated quite clearly on the back of the Episode I VHS.

[Vertigo1]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
Yo-Da-Man!

DIE!

[Shrike]

Yoda is overatted fan service.  There is only one true master.

[Knight Templar]

I guess Darth Pimpsta' (:thepimp: ) did beat them all in the end.. save Luke. Although Luke never seemed as highly skilled a swordsman as the prequel jedi, although that just may be bad scripting.

[NeoHunter]

Nah. I think most of us would think that the prequels had better lightsaber fighting than Episodes 4, 5 and 6 is because George Lucas didn't think of fancy kungfu-style lightsaber duels until he wanted to make the prequels.

Therefore, I think it is not entirely correct to say that Luke's generation had lousy and dull fighting styles. If George Lucas DID think of kungfu in the first place, I think you could also see Darth Vadar do fancy lightsaber moves too in his black and heavy suit.

In my opinion, I think Obi-Wan. Sure, he may be less experienced than Mace Windu but his is more fancy. Remember the beginning of Episode One when he and Qui-Gon Jinn had to fight their way from the gas room into a crowd of battle droids? The slicing off the head then doing a back stab into the headless droid. Then during the fight with Darth Maul on Naboo. After Qui-Gon Jinn died, he got angry and fought very fast. That was way cool man! I even rewinded back a few times then played on slow motion to see what actually happened. Where he blocked and where he striked.

So, I say Obi-Wan Kenobi is better.

[Knight Templar]

Nah. I think most of us would think that the prequels had better lightsaber fighting than Episodes 4, 5 and 6 is because George Lucas didn't think of fancy kungfu-style lightsaber duels until he wanted to make the prequels.

thats actually what i meant.

[Ulundel]

Vader is the best. Yes, he is.

[Tiara]

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[ZylonBane]

Originally posted by NeoHunter
I think most of us would think that the prequels had better lightsaber fighting than Episodes 4, 5 and 6 is because George Lucas didn't think of fancy kungfu-style lightsaber duels until he wanted to make the prequels.

I think most of us would think that the fighting was better in the prequels because those Jedi had years of training in lavish dedicated facilities.

[Fineus]

Originally posted by Shrike


Yoda is overatted fan service.  There is only one true master.

Dude, he died

[Ulundel]

Yeah. only because he was fighting with his son.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Thunder

Dude, he died

Yeah, but all the rest got KILLED. you do the math. Don't doubt for a moment that Anakin slew Dooku to take his place. Of course Yoda kinda faded away--in exile, in defeat.

[Fineus]

Originally posted by mikhael
Yeah, but all the rest got KILLED.

Think of ROTJ - if Luke hadn't had the compassion he did then Vader would've been killed by him as well - he was beaten remember? Lying on the floor... one less arm and open for the striking blow?

Besides, Yoda had no choice but to flee - remember what happened to the Jedi who stuck around? I'd say that makes Yoda a bit of a sensible guy (Hmm... stay and die, flee and live after out-fighting every else anyway... hard that).

I rest my case

[Ulundel]

Ok, Yoda wins...

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Thunder

Think of ROTJ - if Luke hadn't had the compassion he did then Vader would've been killed by him as well - he was beaten remember? Lying on the floor... one less arm and open for the striking blow?

Besides, Yoda had no choice but to flee - remember what happened to the Jedi who stuck around? I'd say that makes Yoda a bit of a sensible guy (Hmm... stay and die, flee and live after out-fighting every else anyway... hard that).

I rest my case

Absolutely. The guy was defeated in the end by his whiny puling son--though I'd say he let the kid win.

Yoda had no choice but to flee, or he coulda taken it like a man, like the rest of his less cowardly bretheren, and fought back. Discretion is the better part of valor, sure, but he ran and hid in a hut and completely failed to unleash Happy Fun Muppet Death on Vader. He was WEAK.

[Fineus]

Perhaps Vadar did let Luke win, but we're not discussing personality traits here - and the evidence is that Vadar lost, horray for him not deciding to pull Luke to bits where he stood, but he still lost.

As for Yoda... No amount of lightsaber ass kicking is going to do any good when you've got to get your ship of choice past the Imperial fleet to get to Vadar, it's all good and well if he could've wizzarded himself off to Vadars bedroom for merry hell-raising between them but he'd have had to get off his rock, get a ship and then get past god knows how many ships/storm troopers before finally getting to fight Vadar. The nearest Star Destroyer would've blown him out of the stars before he had a chance to get close. So yeah, I can see why not staying and fighting makes him cowardly.. perhaps if he could've E-mailed Vadar and said "look, I want to fight you in a lightsaber duel but I don't want to get blown out of the sky on the way there... deal?" He'd have had better luck

Besides, by running he helped Luke who in turn went out and fought Vadar. Doing far more good than wandering into the fight and getting shot out of the sky would've done. So what he did wasn't weak, it was intelligent.