[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Su-tehp
PM me to remind you to tell you what's up with my travel plans and also to give me your itenerary, if it needs to be updated.

.....and in English??



Yeah, Stryke, I'll be in DC Monday-early Friday... Tuesday'll probably be the best day for me to get together with people, as my friend, who is the main reason I'm gonna be in DC, is going to be busy in law school classes that day.

So, uhm... if all the DC people wanna get together on Tuesday, maybe someone should post a topic about it?

[Stryke 9]

Hmmm... Crap. You picked one of the few days I'm NOT gonna be in DC. Gonna be a few hundred miles away, in fact, shooting a wedding.

[ZylonBane]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
Gonna be a few hundred miles away, in fact, shooting a wedding.

:devil:

Good to see that most people in this poll have some common sense.

[diamondgeezer]

I sympathise with the dude in that picture - he's thinking 'I wonder if there's enough time to swing my rifle around a make a shot before he pops a cap between my eyes'.

The answer, of course, is no.

[Sesquipedalian]

Originally posted by Razor
How dare you say that there is no God. God is real! Real I tell ya!

Easy, Razor, easy!  God's been dealing with people denying him since the beginning.  He's able to handle it.

[HotSnoJ]

Moses: My Lord, you could always call yourself "YHWH." That sounds like a good name. Most people would even have trouble spelling it because it doesn't even have any vowels. You could even make it, like, your own personal secret-decoder type name!

Regarding the name of the Judeo-Christian God:

The Hebrew language was originally written only in consonants, with vowels being understood (i.e. the Hebrew reader should know what vowels to use when pronouncing the word in the same way that an English reader should know which way to pronounce "ough" in cough or in through). Vowel indicators were not added until very, very late, as the language was dying out and Jewish rabbis needed to do something to the texts so that readers would know how to read and pronounce them.

Why does that matter? Well, the name God gives for Himself is YHWH (or JHVH if you are German). There were no vowels originally written in the text, as said above. Now, over time, the tradition developed in the Jewish community not to pronouce the name of God, but to substitute the word 'adonay, "lord", in its place. This was done partially out of a sense of respect for God, and partially as a way of insisting upon monotheism (i.e. if there is only one God inexistence, why should we need to identify Him by name?). As a result, by the time the vowel points were added to the Hebrew text, no one knew how to pronouce YHWH anymore. In some places, the vowel points for 'adonay were used, in others the vowel points for elohim, "God" or "gods", and in others none at all were used.

As a result of all this, no one knows just how the name God gave for Himself was originally pronounced in Hebrew. YHWH is all that can be said for certain anymore.

On a more theological note, rather than purely linguistic one, Yahweh is given as God's name primarily for its similarity to the Hebrew for "I am," as in (literally) "I am that I am," or (in English rather than Hebrew grammar) "I am that who is," which is what God says to Moses when he asks God for a name to give to the Israelites. But this post is long already, so I won't draw out the implications of that now.

Great explanation.

Fool, I rebuke you. To understand why the Jews gave/used this name to God you must understand them. They thought God was unreachable. If you mad him mad (sinning), you died. So to not make him mad they gave him a name that had no vowels because God's name was too good for them.

If you know anything about this subject you would have refered yourself to Exodus 3:13-14 "Moses said to God, "Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' Then what shall I tell them?"
14 God said to Moses, "I am who I am*. [1] This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.' "
*3:14 Or I will be what I will be

So we see here God's is God. Note the capital G not the lower case g, which would refer to pagan gods.

[deep_eyes]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Because Jehovah is the formal name of God.  Lord, God, and Father are informal names.

The Jehovah's Witnesses are a Christian Cult.

Another Christian Cult is the Harvest Army of America, Inc. (They threw a pamphlet at me in NYC)

LOL and i bet it was in times square... thats possibly true cause out here, especially in brooklyn, theres like all of a sudden, hundreds of Black Jews (a abstract version of judism and muslim), im like WTF?! these dudes be in the middle of times square dressed like the 3 wise men, and then like, go, WHITE MEN STEAL OUR WOMAN; white men are the devil; JESUS is BLACK ETC ETC ETC, im like, of course he would be, most people in that area of the world get tans (its the friggen desert)....

my favorite one is when im walking down the street one night and one of them dudes was preching and goes, "see that! a white man stealing our black woman!"..... me being the puerto rican with a chip on my shoulder kinda guy, i sez to him, "Mutha F*cker! Yo Soy Boricua...." and cursed him out in spanish- his IGNORENT ASS. and ended it with a, BTW, she aint black, she Dominican you moron!:ha:  goes to show you how ignorent some of these "religous guys" and religion makes some people.

my aunt is even worse, she a jahova witness right, and tell me why when she was like 10, mind you my father side (which is her side of fam), is heavily traditional, and she got so scared one time cause she said a curse - damn; and someone told her she gonna burn in hell. she then runs for her life, and ends up infront of jehovas witnesses preaching on a corner and begs for forgiveness, and like, ends up being ANOINTED a Jahovaswitness. what i dislike about most of them (i am not syaing anyone is like this-but around my way they are) they impose the religion on everyone, they hustle the religion on stgreet corners like its a drug, and MORE SO WORSE, they swear, if u dont believe in us, ur gonna be damned or some dumb 'ish like that...

now i aint hating on the religions, but when i see my "god given" free will to think my own thoughts are currupted by anything, to make me believe that im gonna go to hell cause i cursed, then how is it god given free will if ur constraint to do what u can within certain rules, that MIND YOU, although come out of a bible, but the bible, was still made by a MAN, interpreted by a MAN from a higher being. and with that said, all religion is a fixation of MAN. look @ minority report. the guy was like the system was perfect, but it was made by man, man has flaws, always will. religion was interpreted by man through man. who sez it aint perfect but the guys who overly believe in it? why u think the feds blew away "heavens gate". (see the weed be telling u things, it be showing u the evils lol):wink:

[diamondgeezer]

Originally posted by HotSnoJ
...which would refer to pagan gods.

My favourite kind, as I'm sure the likes of an0n will agree...

I see the Catholic Church has voiced disapproval for an attack on Iraq, saying that war is un-christian. One word answer to that - CRUSADES.

[CP5670]

Su, that was pretty funny...

Actually, I changed my mind a bit; Khinchin's CF constant is undoubtedly god.

[Unknown Target]

God is...God. That's his universal name, so that's what we should call him.

[CP5670]

And what we call Khinchin's constant is this God.

[01010]

Originally posted by HotSnoJ



Great explanation.
If you know anything about this subject you would have refered yourself to Exodus 3:13-14 "Moses said to God, "Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' Then what shall I tell them?"
14 God said to Moses, "I am who I am* /quote]

Dude, ****. God is Popeye.

Never saw THAT coming.

[Grey Wolf]

Originally posted by deep_eyes
LOL and i bet it was in times square... thats possibly true cause out here, especially in brooklyn, theres like all of a sudden, hundreds of Black Jews (a abstract version of judism and muslim), im like WTF?! these dudes be in the middle of times square dressed like the 3 wise men, and then like, go, WHITE MEN STEAL OUR WOMAN; white men are the devil; JESUS is BLACK ETC ETC ETC, im like, of course he would be, most people in that area of the world get tans (its the friggen desert)....

I saw them too. Times Square is full of morons, isn't it?

[USS Alexander]

I think gods real name is....................sharon:rolleyes: and that he wears a dress

[Tiara]

Why name someone/something who/that doesn't exist?

[CP5670]

but khinchin's constant certainly exists!!

[USS Alexander]

Originally posted by Tiara
Why name someone/something who/that doesn't exist?

You got a piont........

[Stryke 9]

Tiara: People name imaginary things all the time. They're good for working with theoreticals and certain things that can't be based on observatoin for some reason for another- I'm not sure why CP hasn't mentioned Calculus yet, but other things would include fairies, spaceships, and the whole truth-and-justice thing. They're all hypotheticals, with no basis in reality. Yet peopel use them, to such an extent that you'd have a rough time NOT talking about or naming one.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by HotSnoJ

To understand why the Jews gave/used this name to God you must understand them. They thought God was unreachable. If you mad him mad (sinning), you died. So to not make him mad they gave him a name that had no vowels because God's name was too good for them.

Err, no.

[diamondgeezer]

Originally posted by Tiara
Why name someone/something who/that doesn't exist?

Your absolutely right, except... we give Santa Claus a name, don't we?

(Sorry if I just ruined anyone's Christmas... )

[EDIT] HotSnoj mate - are you banging on about?