Author Topic: LotR EpII: The Two Towers  (Read 7930 times)

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Offline Stealth

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On the subject of Two Towers, meanwhile - less than sixteen hours to go!


less than 16?  it's almost exactly 10 hours till it starts... i'm getting to the theater in 3 hours to stand in line :D

 

Offline Razor

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Geez. What's such a big deal about a movie? I bet that none of you were as much exciteted when the Freespace 2 release date was comming. :doubt:

 

Offline diamondgeezer

If you're not so excited about Two Towers that you can't sit still, then frankly I don't want to talk to you :cool:

 

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Geez. What's such a big deal about a movie? I bet that none of you were as much exciteted when the Freespace 2 release date was comming. :doubt:


this isn't FS2... this movie is going to make hundreds of millions of dollars the first month it's showing!

 

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alrighty folks,

i'm off to go stand in line and ultimately (eventually) see the movie ;)

I'll post back here tomorrow :D

Later :)

 

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this isn't FS2... this movie is going to make hundreds of millions of dollars the first month it's showing!


Yes.....I believe it will. I have seen the commercials though. Not bad. Lots of people on that battlefield. Maybe....I should see it.

 

Offline diamondgeezer

Look, LOTR is simply the best peice of literature out there (yes, I know, except your God book). You owe it too yourself to at least see the films if you aren't going to read the story. I mean, here you are on the board of a sci-fi game - surely that makes you a S&F fan? And Tolkien is the definitive S&F writer, so...

 

Offline Stealth

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yeah, i know dozens of people that were indifferent to the books/movie, until they saw the movie...

the movie 0wns, even if you didn't like the books... they're action movies, and this one is going to be so good!

*makes use of Sandwich's spoiler tag:*
Spoiler:

i mean... c'mon... who doesn't want to see the fire-swamps, gollum, and best of all Shelob, the massive man-eating spider, who encases her victims in webs and sucks them dry... who doesn't want to see Frodo beaten to a pulp with a whip by orcs when he's captured at the end of the TT (if they even show that in the movie... :blah: ) i mean, this is going to be almost as good if not better than the last of the trilogy


that tag 0wns Sandwich :D

 

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Fate is against me today...I found out that the girl who I was going to ask to TT was invited by her friends to see it today (i.e. opening day) *sigh*

we have a spoiler tag?!

Spoiler:
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Offline diamondgeezer

Spoiler:
No Shelob for you, my pedigree chum. Apparently it was decided that they ending couldn't be left on such a cliff hanger as the book, as those to lazy to read would only complain.


Apparently, there were people who complained because they thought the end of Fellowship was rubbish. To those people, I say "all you base are belong to Tolkien!"

And my money says Return of the King will be the best.

Spoiler:
I really want to see Minas Morgul, and Minas Tirith will be simply beautiful, I'm certain (from the glimpse we got last time). Gollum is going to be fantastic - that guy has issues... but I'm waiting for RotK, cos that's got Mordor, and the massive battle on the Morannon. And I'm hoping like hell they do the end properly, with the scouring of the Shire and Frodo and Bilbo going off with the Elves... ye gods, I can't wait!

 

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oh, and the reason i'm home (after i said i was going to stand in line for the movie) is because there's no one there... can you believe it?  it's 7:24 and there is not one person in line... it's showing in 6 theaters, and i was the only one standing in "line"... anyhow, i left my two younger sisters there to stand in "line"... i'm going through at 10:00 :D

 

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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
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No Shelob for you, my pedigree chum. Apparently it was decided that they ending couldn't be left on such a cliff hanger as the book, as those to lazy to read would only complain.


Apparently, there were people who complained because they thought the end of Fellowship was rubbish. To those people, I say "all you base are belong to Tolkien!"

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then that'll be in the 3rd movie? mmh...
good point: they will have other scenes longer in TTT
bad point: opposite in tRotK :-/
SCREW CANON!

 

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And I'm hoping like hell they do the end properly, with the scouring of the Shire
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Sorry, they've already said that part won't be in the movies.

 

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the movie owned... the movie pwned...


i got back at 4:30 in the morning, had to get up at 6:30 ;)

i';m seeing it again today

 

Offline Nico

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saw it too, and want to talk about it, so:


First, for Non-Tolkien fanatics ( no spoiler ):
it's an awesome fantasy movie, splendid backgrounds, jaw-dropping CGI ( rah the ents!!! ), lot of action, etc. it's a must see

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For the Tolkien fans:

-I warn you a last time, it's 100% spoiler.

I'm a Tolkien addict myself, but I wasn't disapointed. But many might be, coz if I'm an addict, I'm not a fanatic.
There's a LOT of things that are different from the book, the first movie was much closer to its paper counterpart.
First, it ends sooner, before Frodo and Sam get to Chelob ( don't worry, Chelob WILL be in the third movie, you still have Smeagol's monologues about "her" )
Second, the Helm's Deep battle takes a huge importance in the movie, I guess it last from 1/4 to 1/3 of the movie. the trees that come at the end are replaced by Eomer riders. There's an elven warrior group that comes to help -and introduces a new character, but this one doesn't survive the battle, just like all the other elves who all die. A lot of things are shorten ( The ent council is anecdotic for exemple). I find the Rohirim Golden Castle quite disapointing, just look like a big house, with few gold on it when it's supposed to be a castle completly built in gold ( but in fact that whole Rohan country just looks poor and weak in the movie ). Gandalf horse ( I'll avoid names btw, coz I bet french names ae completly wrong translated in english :( ), tho introduced like he is in the book, seems nothing special in the movie. You have an added battle at the end, with a Nazgul showing up, and Faramir takes much more time to free Frodo. Eowyn isn't shown much as a female warrior :(
There's a ( very impressive ) fight with Wargs during the Rohirims journey between the golden castle and Helm's Deep, and Aragorn is left for dead there ( not much point in that, just an excuse to let him have a sight at Saruman's army and talk about it to Theoden ). Gollum talks about his past with Frodo at some point ( btw, Gollum CGI is just amazing, and you get to see him close and very often, just like any real character ).
You get to see the full ent battle at Isengard ( yeah, ents do hurt a damn lot :p ). You get to see Gandalf fighting the Balrog, but you don't get to see the hawk who brings him back.
And many other scenes are different, can't count them all.

All in all I think the movie was excellent, I didn't mind most of the changes but there's a few things that were not necessary and inelegant. The movie is really focused on action this time, people who don't know and love the books should not find this one long and boring like the first one ( I didn't feel that way, but I heard that quite often ) without betraying the essence of the book. I'm just disapointed Cjelob doesn't show up, but you can bet that she will take an important place in the third movie. I suspected the part after the ring is destroyed would be removed from the movie and Levyathan comfirmed it, so they got to fill the gap, so the battle at the door, Minas Tirith siege and Chelob part will compose most of the movie.
So what I think: the movie is not perfect ( but that couldn't be expected ), but it remains the best movie I've seen for, well, pone year, and lives up to both the first movie and the book.
voila!
SCREW CANON!

 
This movie confirms one thing:  Legolas is the ****.


About the elven dude... I didn't hear his name... but could that be the elven battle mage they left out last time?


Also they included a bit of the love story, can understand why they did it... but if they include that and drop the scouring... I'm pissed.
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did you guys see when Legolas "swings" onto the horse Gimli is on when the Rohan soldiers are about to fight those orc scouts (on those rat things... wargs)...

that's like one of the few times when the whole theater just stood up and started yelling and applauding... that was awesome, and they showed it just right (in slow motion and all) :D :D :D :D :D

another uber-cool part was right before the battle at Helms Deep, when you hear the horn, they open the gates, and there are those dozens of elves, holding their bows out, all in unison and all doing the exact same thing.

Those are the two best parts of the movie :D

i liked the way they showed Mordor too... like the gates and all... that pwned
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There's an elven warrior group that comes to help -and introduces a new character, but this one doesn't survive the battle, just like all the other elves who all die.


i think that guy (forgot his name) was in the first movie, at the council of Elrond, where they are deciding what to do with the ring, you see him ride up on horseback with Legolas, and you see him at the meeting (i think)

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before Frodo and Sam get to Chelob


yeah, i was hoping to see Shelob (it's spelled "Shelob"... not "Chelob" by the way ;) ) but oh well...

EDIT:  Gandalf's horse's name is Shadowfax by the way

 

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i think that guy (forgot his name) was in the first movie, at the council of Elrond, where they are deciding what to do with the ring, you see him ride up on horseback with Legolas, and you see him at the meeting (i think)



yeah, i was hoping to see Shelob (it's spelled "Shelob"... not "Chelob" by the way ;) ) but oh well...

EDIT:  Gandalf's horse's name is Shadowfax by the way



yeah well, it was a wild guess, it's not shelob at all in french so...
The elf is not is not Glorfindel, nope.
Yeah, I saw when Legolas "jumped" on Gimli's horse, now I really wanna see someone do this for real :D
btw, the wargs are ( supposed ) to be giant wolves, they show up in The Hobbit, but I don't think you see them in tLotR ( I don't think the wolves that attack the communauty before they reach the Moria in the first book were wargs ).
SCREW CANON!

 

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it wasn't the same elf?  ok

well overall, i think the whole movie was awesome... the scenery, the 360 degree shots and the pan shots they do quite often (like when the characters are running, or climbing a mountain) is awesome, they really did a beautiful job of this movie.