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Reply #60 on: December 21, 2002, 05:59:23 am
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And movies must be fun...


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If you wanted to kill John Conner and a shape shifting Terminator cannot do the job, why don't the machines of the future just send in an army of that flying hunter killers and just blow the whole town where John Conner is to hell? Solves the problem real quick if subtle is not your cup of tea.:D



What's not fun about that, eh??? ;)
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Reply #61 on: December 21, 2002, 06:02:08 am
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Reply #62 on: December 21, 2002, 02:53:00 pm
On the "Matrix Terminator tm" concept, perhaps the Terminator future happens prior to the Matrix/Skynet requiring humans as a source of power? As Reece told whats her face about the future in T1 he said something about the humans first being enslaved and numbered as cattle, then used as slave labor and what not. Perhaps allready then the Matrix/Skynet was figuring out someway to use people as an alternate source of energy. Then when the humans began they're revolution, this disrupted the Matrix/Skynet's plan for a little while. Thus begins the Terminator movie series. But in the end, the humans lose, Connor I suppose bites the dust, and as a last resort, they torch the sky and head underground... With whatever humans are left, the Matrix/Skynet gathers them up and plugs them into itself for power...

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Reply #63 on: December 21, 2002, 04:23:35 pm
it just seems very similar, not that I would actualy want to see the two to be made into the same movie, but it seems like the matrix has a lot of similar concepts and designs and seems like it could be a hundred years in to the future,
it seems like the terminater future seems a lot like the history of the matrix, I'm sure the machines wouldn't totaly kill all humans, simply due to the fact that they may have some use eventualy
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Reply #64 on: December 21, 2002, 04:31:54 pm
Yeah. Its all boils down to the "if you kill you're dad in the past, then you don't exists, thus would'nt be able to kill him in the first place..."

So the machines HAVE to go back in time to stop connor, cause that allows humans to create them. And they MUST allow the humans in the future to revolt so that they could send the terminator back in time in the first place. So they can't wipe out all the humans, cause theres that COSMIC BOND connecting the two. Like in the Matrix. Humans are bound to the Matrix. EEerie...
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Reply #65 on: December 21, 2002, 05:06:37 pm
Matrix and Terminator? Get out of here...

Now, Robocop vs Terminator, that was a good idea. The story goes that when Skynet rose to power, it recognised Robocop as a threat, and dissasembled him but kept his personality stored on a computer (**** knows what for). Eventually, Robocop was able to take control of the local computer systems and build himself a new body in the Skynet factories. He entered the new body and started to fight back against Skynet's Terminators... now that'd make a kick-ass film :nod:
 

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Reply #66 on: December 21, 2002, 05:41:09 pm
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Matrix and Terminator? Get out of here...

Now, Robocop vs Terminator, that was a good idea. The story goes that when Skynet rose to power, it recognised Robocop as a threat, and dissasembled him but kept his personality stored on a computer (**** knows what for). Eventually, Robocop was able to take control of the local computer systems and build himself a new body in the Skynet factories. He entered the new body and started to fight back against Skynet's Terminators... now that'd make a kick-ass film :nod:


:wtf: robocop has brains, you can't srore his personality in a computer. plus he's no match for a terminator anyway.
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Reply #67 on: December 22, 2002, 05:25:33 am
You know what I would like to see? A Terminator movie set in the apocolyptic future where John Conner is already the leader of the Human Resistance and its the final showdown with the Terminators!!! All this time travelling to protect his younger self is tiresome.
 

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Reply #68 on: December 22, 2002, 06:17:00 am
Here here! WE want future battles!!
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Reply #69 on: December 22, 2002, 05:22:46 pm
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Here here! WE want future battles!!


Have you not seen this trailer?? It looks like future battles we shall have! :D

EDIT: Sorry for the bizzare grammar; I just got out of The Two Towers. ;7 ;7 ;7
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #70 on: December 22, 2002, 05:29:38 pm
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Have you not seen this trailer?? It looks like future battles we shall have! :D

EDIT: Sorry for the bizzare grammar; I just got out of The Two Towers. ;7 ;7 ;7

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Reply #71 on: December 22, 2002, 05:36:50 pm
And I'll have to wait till January 7th :sigh:
 

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Reply #72 on: December 22, 2002, 06:23:23 pm
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Any un-tagged spoilers will be treated with a kick in the nads. I'm seeing that movie 2morrow morning!


I didn't say nutin'!! :nervous:
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Reply #73 on: December 22, 2002, 07:46:28 pm
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After thinking awhile, I think the Terminator series is a bit dumb.


Terminator? DUMB!?:confused:

How can you say it's dumb!?
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Reply #74 on: December 22, 2002, 09:12:46 pm
well, if they had sucseeded in there atempts to kill Conor then they wouldn't have gone into the past to kill him, becase he never made him selfe into a problem, so he would have survived so he would have made himself a problem for skynet, and it would have gone into the past to kill him and.....
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Reply #75 on: December 23, 2002, 04:03:55 am
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Have you not seen this trailer?? It looks like future battles we shall have! :D


Yeah, I saw the trailer. But all I saw was a couple of terminators walking towards the screen with a Hunter/killer floating in the back... What I REALLY want is "The Two Towers" sorta battle!! Hmm, I dunno. After watching the Two Towers, I watched the trailer, and basically everything I saw after TT paled in comparison. :D But I'm pritty sure there'll be some tidbits of action in the future...
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Reply #76 on: December 23, 2002, 05:13:29 am
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Yeah, I saw the trailer. But all I saw was a couple of terminators walking towards the screen with a Hunter/killer floating in the back... What I REALLY want is "The Two Towers" sorta battle!! Hmm, I dunno. After watching the Two Towers, I watched the trailer, and basically everything I saw after TT paled in comparison. :D But I'm pritty sure there'll be some tidbits of action in the future...


....and the end scene?? You have a numer of "naked" T-300 (or whatever number they were) looking as if they were just itching for a battle. :D
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Reply #77 on: December 23, 2002, 05:29:54 am
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Spoilers for TTT? Oh, come on... :p
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Reply #78 on: December 23, 2002, 07:23:46 am
I hate quicktime, it never works.
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