[Vertigo1]

Actually, that bit wasn't really their fault.  Paramount liked the Akira design and forced them to use it.

[Knight Templar]

Originally poste by Vertigo1

How can you write something in that contradicts everything else in the franchise?

well obviously you've seen voyager..  Everything they did up to Getting Seven was fine. Kazon, 8472, it wasn't that bad. And Seven was alright, but everything they did with the borg after they got her was just wrong.

They killed a perfectly good villiian and.. bleh.

Originally poste by Vertigo1

Just as long as they get the chance to show some two-bit actor in a tight uniform....

Fine actress. Although catsuits aren't exactly start trek.. not to mention it went un-explained the entire series... not that I'm objecting.

[Kazashi]

[NERD]

Originally posted by Knight Templar


well obviously you've seen voyager..  Everything they did up to Getting Seven was fine. Kazon, 8472, it wasn't that bad. And Seven was alright, but everything they did with the borg after they got her was just wrong.

They killed a perfectly good villiian and.. bleh.

Agreed. Supposedly an enemy that has practically absorbed the knowledge of a quarter of the galaxy is now quite defeatable by a single ship after a few "convenient" encounters.

 

Fine actress. Although catsuits aren't exactly start trek.. not to mention it went un-explained the entire series... not that I'm objecting. [/B]

That's to keep all the geeks distracted while the writers ignore everything written beforehand and trash a pre-established history for the sake of ratings.

Since when did Romulan ships cloak back in 2152 when it was an unknown to Starfleet as late as 2267, even after that rather major altercation called the Romulan War (which is supposed to start in 2156, but I'm sure they'll conveniently overlook that)? And are the Klingons really so lazy or backwards that they use the same battleship design for 225+ years?

Apparently the Akira is supposed to pay hommage to the NX-class vessel, in the same way that the Fleming class medical ship looks like the Daedalus class cruiser from back at the beginning of the Federation. Though it makes you wonder why Starfleet will regress from NX-01 to a more primitive design in the next 10 years. Oh whoops, that ship looks rather inconvenient, we'll just pretend that was never constructed....

A couple of nights ago, I sat down and had a think about this. I'm sure some people (I have one particular person in mind) would say that it's not worth getting into a heated argument over a fictional universe. So I have to wonder - if it's not worth consideration, why do people write TV shows in the first place? Why do they bother writing them with some sort of cohesion running through it? Why go to the effort of trying to construct a universe with depth when the writers themselves won't pay attention to it?

[/NERD]

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Sci-Fi prequels just do not work, take the Phantom Menace, and Attack of the Clones, they don't fit in WHATSOEVER.

Another thing, in TNG, in Picard's ready room, he has a plaque of every ship called enterprise. There is the present day carrier, then it's straight to the NCC-1701. Where is Archer's Ship?

[kasperl]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Sci-Fi prequels just do not work, take the Phantom Menace, and Attack of the Clones, they don't fit in WHATSOEVER.

Another thing, in TNG, in Picard's ready room, he has a plaque of every ship called enterprise. There is the present day carrier, then it's straight to the NCC-1701. Where is Archer's Ship?

wasn't that already mentioned?

anyway, i do agree that enterprise is really bad for ST, for once, some of the actors are more time outside there uniforms then in them, and whats with that decon chamber? that's just another excuse to show more skin than uniform. and don't make me even start complaining about the storyline and coninuity(sp) compared to the other series

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Indeed, before long it will be nothing more than some soft-porn thing, like sex in the city.

[kasperl]

isn't it like sex and the city already??? i mean,look at one more decon scene....

[Levyathan]

Does it matter?

*never liked Star Trek*

[Goober5000]

Yes, it matters.  DS9 was teh awesome.  VOY had a good premise, but they threw that away plus they made the Borg a bunch of pansies.  Enterprise is just dumb.

[Levyathan]

Oh yeah, the Borg. The single thing I like about Star Trek.

[Knight Templar]

Oh c'mon.. Jolene Blalock guys.

Ok, maybe not in star Trek, but it seems to be the new trend.. It kinda Started with Deana, but not as out of place as with Seven and even more so with... whatever her name is.

Personally i would've wanted a 1) better latter half of Voyager..

and

2) A new series after Voy/DS9. I think it'd definitly make more sense than going back and making a prequel.. Enterprise is the kindof series which should be explained as canonly as possibly through Books If it need be totally necasary .

[Goober5000]

Right.  It should be done carefully, not flippantly.

[NeoHunter]

Funny... I find that female Vulcan attractive...ah...T'Pol...that's her name. Wonder if wer'll really meet such an attractive alien female after first contact..

[diamondgeezer]

I know it makes me an uber-geek, but Vulcan and Romulan birds are teh fit

Same goes for elves *pauses to admire Liv Tyler wallpaper*, but the Vulcan haircut just does it for me. But then, I quite like a bird with short hair, if it's done properly

*remebers Selar* Ahh... I love Star Trek

[Knight Templar]

Really?
Something about short hair just .. I dunno...   screams butch lesbian to me...  

Blalock and ryan I made exceptions for cuz they both have hair underneath the wigs/tight stylings.

[diamondgeezer]

Yeah, I realise there's a fine line between sexy short hair and lesbian-alike, but hey. Another example - what about Willow when she had it cut short? Nice...

[an0n]

Urgh. Idiots.

TOS: Yeoman Janice Rand and to a lesser extent, Nurse Christine Chapel
TNG: Deanna Troi and to a lesser extent Ro Laren and Tasha Yar (and possibly Guinan for all you sick mofo's)
DS9: Jadzia Dax, to a similar extent Leeta and to a lesser extent Kira Nerys and Ezri Dax (and possibly Kai Adami Winn for you sick mofo's and Keiko for you asian lovers)
VOY: Seven Of Nine and to a lesser extent Torres and Kes (and Tuvok for you sick mofo's, and then there's every piece of ass that Chakotay tricked into bed)
ENT: Sub-Commander T'Pol and to similar extent Hoshi (and possibly Porthos for you sick mofo's)

[an0n]

Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Yeah, I realise there's a fine line between sexy short hair and lesbian-alike, but hey. Another example - what about Willow when she had it cut short? Nice...

Nah, it was the black eyes and the goth clothes.

[diamondgeezer]

Originally posted by an0n
Nah, it was the black eyes and the goth clothes.

Anyways, you reminded me - Ezri was teh fit (dunno what your problem was, an0n, dodgy eyesight perhaps?), and so was Kes when she had her hair short

[an0n]

Nicole de Boer and Jennifer Lien were never set out as sex-objects though. They were the touchy-feely, "men want to be with me because I've got a personality" kinda babes. Not the "Bejesus! We could blow up a Cube with them guns!" kinda babes.