[vyper]

Originally posted by mikhael


I must have missed that part of bootcamp.  Maybe it was sandwiched between Mass Murder 101 and Political Assassination for Fun and Profit.

What sort of idea do civilians have about the military anyway? Do you lot even have a clue?

The military exists for one purpose. To defend the interests and subjects (citizens) of the country they come from.

[Stryke 9]

...What it gets used for is somethign else altogether.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by mikhael


I must have missed that part of bootcamp.  Maybe it was sandwiched between Mass Murder 101 and Political Assassination for Fun and Profit.

What sort of idea do civilians have about the military anyway? Do you lot even have a clue?

Well at least here it doesn't seem many do. If nothing else you'd think ppl could respect the soldiers themselves...it's not like THEY make the choice on where to deploy and for what purpose.

It's a goddamned shame that ppl who potentionally risk their lives for their country, for whatever their personal reasons might be, don't get half the respect they should.

*shrug*
Such is youth in this world though.

[wEvil]

i have a perfectly healthy amount of respect for them-

and almost the same amount of disrespect i have for the system they're defending.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by wEvil
i have a perfectly healthy amount of respect for them-

and almost the same amount of disrespect i have for the system they're defending.

But ya know.... if the system wasn't where it's at now ... how many of us would have the lives we now lead ? God only knows what type of lifestyle we'd all have. Yea...nothing's perfect,.....but **** if I'm able to change the world so why worry and ***** about it ? I'm perfectly happy with my life right where it is.

[Levyathan]

I respect the military - possibly because they carry huge guns.

[Anaz]

Originally posted by Levyathan
I respect the military - possibly because they carry huge guns.

good a reason as any...

[Stryke 9]

Originally posted by Warlock


But ya know.... if the system wasn't where it's at now ... how many of us would have the lives we now lead ? God only knows what type of lifestyle we'd all have. Yea...nothing's perfect,.....but **** if I'm able to change the world so why worry and ***** about it ? I'm perfectly happy with my life right where it is.

Complacency isn't how things get any better, though. It doesn't matter how "good" things are now (note the quotation marks), they can certainly become better, and the only way that's ever gonna happen is by doing the same thing that was done to get us to this point- make a lot of noise. Improvement happens slowly, painfully, and generally with a lot of bloodshed. It does NOT happen when people decide to sit around and comment on how lovely things are.

[Fetty]

Originally posted by vyper


The military exists for one purpose. To defend the interests and subjects (citizens) of the country they come from.

meh
protecting from what ?
other countrys military ?
Military was is and will be always used as wepons, and wepons are there to bring death & destroction nothing else. Well at least i neve used an uzi to plant flowers

[Warlock]

Originally posted by StrykeIX


Complacency isn't how things get any better, though. It doesn't matter how "good" things are now (note the quotation marks), they can certainly become better, and the only way that's ever gonna happen is by doing the same thing that was done to get us to this point- make a lot of noise. Improvement happens slowly, painfully, and generally with a lot of bloodshed. It does NOT happen when people decide to sit around and comment on how lovely things are.

Well personally I seriously don't have anything to be upset about in my life.

Making noise for change is one thing, *****ing about things in general (military for example) instead on what's really causing the issues you're upset with,...is completely a different thing.

[Stryke 9]

"Choose your weapon
Guns or flowers
Flowers shoot rotten bullets
Guns make lousy flowerpots."

No, that had no relevancy to anything. I just felt like posting the poem.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Fetty

meh
protecting from what ?
other countrys military ?
Military was is and will be always used as wepons, and wepons are there to bring death & destroction nothing else. Well at least i neve used an uzi to plant flowers

Yea not like another country would invade us or drop bombs or such if we didn't have a military right ?

[Stryke 9]

Warlock: Actually, the military's a big part of that problem, because it's what's keeping me from removing the other problem. That and the cops, but they're basically in-house military.

And they wouldn't if they didn't have reason to- reasons we provide in abundance, largely via the military. Without an army, we'd still be too tough a nut to crack to make a good colony.

[Anaz]

who was high on what when they wrote that?

[Warlock]

Originally posted by StrykeIX
"Choose your weapon
Guns or flowers
Flowers shoot rotten bullets
Guns make lousy flowerpots."

No, that had no relevancy to anything. I just felt like posting the poem.

lol

[demon442]

The man has the right idea, but mandantory military service is not the answer.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by StrykeIX
Warlock: Actually, the military's a big part of that problem, because it's what's keeping me from removing the other problem. That and the cops, but they're basically in-house military.

Ok... either you're a standard anarchist style teenager bent on the all time "I hate the Government and wanna kill them all" or you're completely missing a few hundred issues man.

Tell me how an E-1 up to an E-8 is causing a single political/worldly/lifestyle issue that affects you ?

Hell even 98% of the officers don't make the calls.

**** and Orders roll downhill.

[Stryke 9]

Diggers, likely on weed, STP, acid, and humanity.

[Stryke 9]

Warlock: I gots no problem with army men, person by person. I've got a problem with the army as a body. It's the organization that's death- not, really, the people. The people constitute the organization, but without it, they'd still be there, and the one can be extracted from the other.

But, like I said, army isn't my main problem, it's the government that's trying to get me killed by makng me join it, killing arresting my people, suspending the very rights it claims to stand for in order to **** over a few dissidents, and in other words BEING A VERY SERIOUS ****ING PROBLEM for us. I don't know about you all, and at the moment I'm not entirely interested, but for me and my comrades the government most certainly IS a problem, so long as the everpresent nagging risk of getting "dissapeared" is a problem. It's happened to people I know of, and it's happening to more all the time. And that is a problem for me, a very personal one. Got a problem with that?

[Anaz]

Originally posted by StrykeIX
Diggers, likely on weed, STP, acid, and humanity.

ah...I see...