[Fetty]

hey i wouldnt mide another ice age rly
humanity sucks ass anyway

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Fetty
hey i wouldnt mide another ice age rly
humanity sucks ass anyway

Just think of all the places to snowboard   LOL

[wEvil]

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[wEvil]

the only problem with that theory is humans are not a natural function of this planets biosphere - we dont give a **** because we know we'll just build a nice big arcology or something.

And the problem is not just a global one - its also highly localised.  You might be quite happy living in a distopian, post-industrial twilight zone, because you have other ways of relaxing.  I, however, find a walk in the woods to be a great way to unwind.

Except...oh yeah....because its too much trouble to find alternative energy sources instead of kicking up loads of sulphur and ozones into the atmosphere there won't BE any woods left.

Then there's the small problem of the carbon sink....yeah, we're avoiding an ice age at the moment - so lets cut a few more trees down......100 years down the line?  we'll wind up having to GM algae or something to stop roasting ourselves in our own world like a joint of beef in kitchen foil.

Oh..but then again, you still don't care, because we'll just piss off to another world and wreck that too.

Sometimes i wonder if Agent Smith out of the matrix was right - you have just displayed a great virus mentality.

[CP5670]

There are environmental issues today that definitely need to be addressed, but this article is pointing to all the wrong things. Alright, some species get thinned out, big deal; it is hardly going to affect the global economy (the plants can still be grown in artificial conditions), and saying that it is somehow "wrong" to just stand by and let this happen (when no practical benefits exist for doing so) is like saying that it is "wrong" for us to allow supernovas to explode in the universe.

I however am more of a Tracer tong at heart, not happy with technology but quite happy to use it.

bah! Helios is the master.

humanity sucks ass anyway

exactly!

the only problem with that theory is humans are not a natural function of this planets biosphere - we dont give a **** because we know we'll just build a nice big arcology or something.

This is what I mean when I say practical issues; if it is indeed realistic to do such a thing, then screw the environment, there is no reason for us to bother with it seeing as there are no benefits there. Also, what do you mean by "natural function?" Of course humans are a natural function of the planet's biosphere (as is anything else in it), and if you look at things that way, it is apparent that whatever actions humans take are simply a part of the workings of the universe, and by extension the biosphere.

Oh..but then again, you still don't care, because we'll just piss off to another world and wreck that too.

Exactly, and that's simply the way the universe works; nothing good or bad with it.

[wEvil]

call me soft-hearted but dont you find it just a little repellant that you'd wreck another species' chance of a rise to sentience by wrecking this world?

Its OK to have feelings you know...

[CP5670]

Well, that's not our problem. If the species gets wrecked, once again, it's a part of the workings of the universe, and there is nothing repellant (or likeable) about it; it is simply the way things are. On this particular point, there are no benefits in our practical world today either from a social standpoint, so that is the end of it.

[Shrike]

Originally posted by venom2506
yeah, but a few million years ago, there were volcanoes everywhere , the changes were not done on two decades. Oh, you know, there was dinosaurs, too. To sum up: it was different.
If what you say about the sun is right, I guess we can "thank" it, or else it'd had us all toasted already?

There are volcanoes everywhere now.

In fact, volcanoes often decrease global temperatures due to the massive amounts of particulates they can inject into the atmosphere.

[Nico]

Originally posted by CP5670
Well, that's not our problem. If the species gets wrecked, once again, it's a part of the workings of the universe, and there is nothing repellant ...

yes there is: I don't wanna live in a boring world, is there a pb with that?

[CP5670]

Go into math and the world will never be boring again. Problem solved.

[delta_7890]

Originally posted by CP5670
Go into math and the world will never be boring again. Problem solved.

Learn to be *human* and your problems will be solved!  ^^;

[01010]

Originally posted by delta_7890


Learn to be *human* and your problems will be solved!  ^^;

ZING!

[delta_7890]

Originally posted by 01010


ZING!

I'll take that as an agreement and/or compliment of my statement?

[CP5670]

What is this "human" you people speak of? We are all humans anyway. If you mean something else, express it as an equation or something at least. Besides, I have no problems, because I have math.

[Nico]

Originally posted by CP5670
Go into math and the world will never be boring again. Problem solved.

yeah right, i almost died of boredom because of math, there would be only me, I'd ban math from school

[Warlock]

Originally posted by CP5670
What is this "human" you people speak of? We are all humans anyway. If you mean something else, express it as an equation or something at least. Besides, I have no problems, because I have math.

CP...sometimes you scare me buddy  lol

[wEvil]

mathematics has its limits, CP - you know this.   All it can ever be is a model of the world, not the world in its entirety.

[delta_7890]

Originally posted by CP5670
What is this "human" you people speak of? We are all humans anyway. If you mean something else, express it as an equation or something at least. Besides, I have no problems, because I have math.

An equation?  Hrm...I'm usually not one for these, but I suppose I can entertain you just this once..

Human + Another Human (hopefully of the opposite sex, not that I'm prejudiced against homosexuals, but it's what *I'd* prefer) = Happy Ordinary Life

Human + Mathematics = Highly unusual and strange little man who is missing more to life than he lets himself believe.

Though you'll never seem to discover it CP, love, the love between two human beings is one of the most incredible thing this world has to offer.  Denying yourself that is simply...foolish...

[01010]

Originally posted by delta_7890
Though you'll never seem to discover it CP, love, the love between two human beings is one of the most incredible thing this world has to offer.

Even better when the second human being wants to enter a third into that equation.

[Stunaep]

Originally posted by CP5670

This is what I mean when I say practical issues; if it is indeed realistic to do such a thing, then screw the environment, there is no reason for us to bother with it seeing as there are no benefits there. Also, what do you mean by "natural function?" Of course humans are a natural function of the planet's biosphere (as is anything else in it), and if you look at things that way, it is apparent that whatever actions humans take are simply a part of the workings of the universe, and by extension the biosphere.

I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure that the changes to a biosphere made by intelligent beings are "natural". They are made with clear intentions in mind,thus they are "artificial". Natural would be something that occurs due to the laws of well, nature, since humans try to bend those laws, therefore they are not natural.

Originally posted by CP5670
There are environmental issues today that definitely need to be addressed, but this article is pointing to all the wrong things. Alright, some species get thinned out, big deal; it is hardly going to affect the global economy (the plants can still be grown in artificial conditions), and saying that it is somehow "wrong" to just stand by and let this happen (when no practical benefits exist for doing so) is like saying that it is "wrong" for us to allow supernovas to explode in the universe

ok, let's take this from a purely financial point of view: Growing plants artificially on a polluted planet would require artificial weather, artificial food, artificial sunlight, a biodome, all of which would cost several fortunes. Instead on spending thousands and thousands of resources, manhours and money on such things, would it not be easier to just stop the plants from extinction.

Originally posted by Delta_7890
Though you'll never seem to discover it CP, love, the love between two human beings is one of the most incredible thing this world has to offer. Denying yourself that is simply...foolish...

not only that, but human emotions such as love, cannot be brought down to a mathematical level. And no matter how hard you try to deny these emotions, they still function as strongly and make the same difference.

C'mon, would you say no to... uh... discussing maths with Natalie Portman?

Even better when the second human being wants to enter a third into that equation.

OK, we all understand you almost had a threesome on new years eve, but would it be time to drop the subject?