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Offline Zarax

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Reply #20 on: January 09, 2003, 05:29:28 am
Why not implementing an abstract, codec free architecture?
I mean, with the source we can demand on the OS all video and sound execution.
With it, it will possible to execute ANY codec without using them, since they will be played by the OS.
This can be applied not anly for cutscenes, but also for ingame sounds...
Just think at new campaigns with completely new soundsets and musics, now with wave they would be huge, but with a good compression, like the one provided by WMA, you could have the same quality at bitrates ranging from 64 to 128kbps...
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Offline RandomTiger

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Reply #21 on: January 09, 2003, 06:35:12 am
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Originally posted by Zarax

With it, it will possible to execute ANY codec without using them, since they will be played by the OS.


We have that already.
 

Offline Darkage

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Reply #22 on: January 09, 2003, 06:42:17 am
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Originally posted by Setekh




:eek2: These guys are legends! And with Darkage's test... Say, Darkage, just to be sure, could you encode something else? Something that's vastly different in content?


I can cook something up. To test a few things and options Xvid provides.
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Offline Inquisitor

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Reply #23 on: January 09, 2003, 08:24:19 am
Like RT said, that's kinda what we have, which is why SCP doesn't need to do anythign special, and why I disagree with DivX's stance on the licensing. I don't think the people I talked to "get" technology.

Someone wants to take a swing at this, go for it :)
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Offline Fury

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Reply #24 on: January 10, 2003, 04:11:28 am
Would it be possible to use divx compressed animations to replace current .ani files?
 

Offline Setekh

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Reply #25 on: January 10, 2003, 04:23:47 am
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Originally posted by Darkage
I can cook something up. To test a few things and options Xvid provides.


Thanks dude, appreciate it. :nod:
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Offline Sesquipedalian

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Reply #26 on: January 10, 2003, 05:49:58 am
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Would it be possible to use divx compressed animations to replace current .ani files?
I'm going to guess not.  FS ani files are just pcx files compiled into frames.
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Offline vyper

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Reply #27 on: January 10, 2003, 08:46:24 am
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Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
I'm going to guess not.  FS ani files are just pcx files compiled into frames.


Indeed because then you would definately have to hard-code support for DivX.
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Offline Inquisitor

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Reply #28 on: January 10, 2003, 09:18:07 am
Yup, then we would be in violation of their license :)
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Offline Fury

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Reply #29 on: January 10, 2003, 09:35:22 am
Screw divx! I meant xvid. :D
 

Offline Krom

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Reply #30 on: January 10, 2003, 11:54:22 am
You might be forgetting the amount of CPU power it takes to decode some of these newer compression formats.  Encoding isnt the only thing that can go slowly.  I've seen divx5 play back choppy on a 1 GHz Pentium 3 machine.  If you make a computer try to play back sevral small looping movies in these formats you're asking for slowdowns and dropped frames.

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Offline Fury

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Reply #31 on: January 10, 2003, 12:06:33 pm
Oh well, there's always mpeg which requires less CPU power but filesizes are larger. Should be better than the format used in FS/FS2 movies though...
 

Offline SG_01

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Reply #32 on: January 10, 2003, 04:38:08 pm
You can always try the RAD Gaming Tools, you know the .bik files and stuff, you can download the gaming tools itself for free, the game-stuff is stuff that needs payment...

The bink files are generaly smaller in video, but require and MP3 Codec for sound

Think about it ;)
 

Offline SKYNET-011

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Reply #33 on: January 10, 2003, 04:43:55 pm
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Offline ZylonBane

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Reply #34 on: January 10, 2003, 09:23:23 pm
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You can always try the RAD Gaming Tools, you know the .bik files and stuff
No, no, no, no, nooooo! Bink files are huge (and incompatible with Media Player).
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Offline Setekh

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Reply #35 on: January 11, 2003, 12:15:54 am
For fun, I took a video of me practising some basketball skills (I suck :D). :) It's DivX 5.0.2 encoded - if anyone wants to put it into XviD and see how it compares, that'd be great. :)

http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/22_bounces.avi (15.6mb)
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Offline SG_01

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Reply #36 on: January 11, 2003, 08:26:21 am
I used Smacker to convert the file and its now 15,688,012 bytes
that is 769524 bytes smaller then the orriginal
 

Offline Fetty

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Reply #37 on: January 11, 2003, 09:09:20 am
yeah but smacker is an 256 color codec (wich might explain the smaller filesize :D )

mpg doesnt sound so bad actualy
 

Offline Fury

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Reply #38 on: January 11, 2003, 10:15:48 am
Bink is horrible! Far too many players are having problems with bink. So avoid it at all costs!
Bink = Stuttering playback, slow playback, breaking sounds/voices. All that.
Be very, very happy if you haven't had any problems with bink and own numerous games which uses bink.
 

Offline Nico

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Reply #39 on: January 11, 2003, 11:32:35 am
guess I'm very very happy then :p
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