[Raptor]

Okay, since I have been able to get single Lod models, without any submodels, into the game, I have been practicing with missile models.

As such, I began to redo the Volition missile models.  Making them much higher Detailed models.

I'm sick of launching blocky, five sided torpedos with arwful maps (Helios).  Also, when launching missiles, quite often, the maps on the craft show missile ports that are smaller than the missile launched from them.

Now, as I've been doing this, I have been working on new craft designs during spare time.  The main one at this point is a new heavy assault bomber, a BIG one.  Naturally, I want it to carry Helios torpedos.

Problem:  The Helios torpedo model is so BIG, to carry more than four of them would make the bomber the size of a small cruiser, and look rubbish.

So, question: should I make new versions of the Helios and Cyclops, which are smaller than the orginal models, and would fit in the launchers on the craft maps?  Or should I keep them the same size (much higher detail, of course)?

[FnordBear]

Make them smaller....It is somewhat disconcerting to see a missle fly out of your ship that is half the size of said ship....though it is amusing in it's own little way

[SKYNET-011]

Inferno's Notus could still handle them.

[Nico]

I'd say keep them the current size, coz sometimes you're supposed to shoot them down, if they're too small, well...

[karajorma]

Keep them the same size and make a Helios MK II which is smaller. Best of both worlds

 Remember what venom said though if you're counting on the player (or even enemy) shooting down bombs though.

[Sesquipedalian]

Originally posted by Raptor

The Helios torpedo model is so BIG...

Meh.  Realism, smealism.

[Shrike]

You guys actually spend time looking at the quality of the missile models?  Hardcore.  They're low poly for a reason; because they're small and you're not supposed to look at them under 'beauty shot' conditions.  At least that's the idea.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Shrike
You guys actually spend time looking at the quality of the missile models?  Hardcore.  They're low poly for a reason; because they're small and you're not supposed to look at them under 'beauty shot' conditions.  At least that's the idea.

for missiles, I agree. but it's true the big bombs are quite visible, and so you can see how ugly they are

[Raptor]

As said, I began redoing them as practice.

Also, I have created new missile weapons ( mainly for the Shivans), and reusing the small models over and over gets boring.

The orginal models may look better, if they had better maps (Disruptor Missile case in point)

I had planed to keep them the same size orginally, I just though I had better see what people would like.

BTW, big bomber form before has a finalished design, will upload scan at some point (drawing on paper with pencil).

Carrys 4 helios torpedos, and 40 trebuchets :thepimp:

be afraid, be very afraid.......

[Nico]

Originally posted by Raptor
As said, I began redoing them as practice.

Also, I have created new missile weapons ( mainly for the Shivans), and reusing the small models over and over gets boring.

The orginal models may look better, if they had better maps (Disruptor Missile case in point)

I had planed to keep them the same size orginally, I just though I had better see what people would like.

BTW, big bomber form before has a finalished design, will upload scan at some point (drawing on paper with pencil).

Carrys 4 helios torpedos, and 40 trebuchets :thepimp:

be afraid, be very afraid.......

That makes me think I'll have to make some missiles and bombs for OTT some day... What a pain

[Raptor]

UPDATE: Will soon be uploading a example pic (trebuchet), as long as everything goes well......

BTW, are there only 11 people who browse the forums regularly?  Cause how many be people who have voted so far.

[Alikchi]

It seems like a cool idea :0

[vyper]

This'll be interesting.
Btw, when Shrike said:
[q]Hardcore[/q]
I suddenly got the image of a tracksuit-clad ned being ejected from The Shack or Trash.

[Raptor]

Forgot to do this.

Originally posted by SKYNET-011
Inferno's Notus could still handle them.

Maybe, but it's a user designed craft.  I was refering to the V designs, where we see Cyclops Torpedos (currently 2m dia, 6.8m long) being launched from tubes which would only allow Tempests through.

Sudden thought: The only time you use the Helios is against the first Sathanas, when you are flying the Bakha.(spelling:confused: ).

This craft could just about hold 2 helios torpedos, but it would be a very tight fit.  And would use each of the side pod things to hold one each.  Try it yourself (Helios currently 3m dia, 9.9m long).

Vyper, Alikchi, please elaborate:blah:

[karajorma]

I think the topic calls for a repost of these pics


That's a Helios compared against a Myrmidon. Try launching one of those if you want to see silly

 *note - please do not reignite the myrmidon/helios debate again I only posted this cause it's probably one of the sillier ones in the game*

[beatspete]

...i belive i have a solution...

http://www.angelfire.com/stars4/beatspete/bombstrap.html

[Raptor]

Originally posted by beatspete
...i belive i have a solution...

http://www.angelfire.com/stars4/beatspete/bombstrap.html

All well and good, but what happens when you fire the torpedo?

[beatspete]

Suppose it just drags you along with it.  

[StratComm]

More importantly, what happens when that fighter that is after you starts shooting at your bomber's underside?  I don't think that shields will protect you if the bomb goes off inside the shield.

[Solatar]

Originally posted by StratComm
More importantly, what happens when that fighter that is after you starts shooting at your bomber's underside?  I don't think that shields will protect you if the bomb goes off inside the shield.

Wouldn't the shield protect the bomb from enemy fire...