Author Topic: We're screwed (Read 11595 times)

Ulundel · **on:** February 15, 2003, 05:29:37 am

Yesterday, Bush called to our prime minister to explain him America's views plus asked him about Estonia's opinion - basically, which side are we.

Estonia has always supported the peaceful outcome but we are also trying to join NATO and USA could basically block our way to there if we do not support them in this matter.

So probably Bush said something like this...

Yo, Siim (our prime minister's first name), America and Estonia have also shared the same views but now, I heard a certain *nudge* rumour that Estonia do not support attacking Iraq. *wink* But then, you're also trying to join NATO and *wink-wink*...

He's using our damn weaknesses to find more allies! That is sick!

Barbarian · **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2003, 05:38:33 am

Hopefully you PM will have More Sence than Mine ( Blair )

Bobboau · **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2003, 05:49:52 am

no that is politics, what is sick is France and Germeny blocking efforts to prepaire defences for Turkey becase they don't want us to take out Sadam, that is one holy hell of a lot worse than us threatening not to suport you if you don't suport us, becase many people in Turkey could die in horable ways from this, Estonia joining NATO may lead to a less secure future but it does not ramp the prospects of you getting nailed for suporting you're allies in the very near future,
and besides why the hell do you want to join the North American Treaty Organisation, it sure as hell does not sound like you want to be on our side

Ulundel · **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2003, 05:53:20 am

We've always supported America. But after this we don't. NATO will just become useful to us - that's the main point.

Darkage · **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2003, 05:56:00 am

Here we go again:rolleyes:

Ulundel · **Reply #5 on:** February 15, 2003, 05:57:09 am

No, I don't want to have another anti-America discussion here. Just wanted to know what you guys think about this.

Bobboau · **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:01:01 am

what is "this", the war with Iraq or our presureing you to suport us on it?

Turnsky · **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:02:43 am

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Originally posted by Barbarian
Hopefully you PM will have More Sence than Mine ( Blair )

hell, mine's john howard..

Ulundel · **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:06:03 am

No, the fact that you are using our weakness to get what you want. It's like an ultimatum - wanna join NATO: support us. If you do not support us: screw you and if WW3 should come... *wink-wink* *nudge-nudge*

Bobboau · **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:11:34 am

or you know it could just as easily be the other way around, your government could be saying "if you don't help us get into NATO we won't suport you with Iraq", the amount of evedence you have is inconclucive to say the lease and ether senario is just as likly from what I can see
and to be honest if your government is preasuring us, it would not upset me as much as it should, I guess I have just been desencatized by France's begging us not to take there oil from them and give it back to the people of Iraq

Nico · **Reply #10 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:14:28 am

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Originally posted by Bobboau
no that is politics, what is sick is France and Germeny blocking efforts to prepaire defences for Turkey becase they don't want us to take out Sadam, that is one holy hell of a lot worse than us threatening not to suport you if you don't suport us, becase many people in Turkey could die in horable ways from this, Estonia joining NATO may lead to a less secure future but it does not ramp the prospects of you getting nailed for suporting you're allies in the very near future,
and besides why the hell do you want to join the North American Treaty Organisation, it sure as hell does not sound like you want to be on our side

North ATLANTIC Treaty Organisation you droofus

France is not blocking efforts to prepare defence for turkey or any crap like that, we're doing that for the petrol deals we have there I suppose. Just like Bush wants to go for Irak to get those, coz he doesn't give a damn about Saddam. I really wonder what the hell you're thinking about.

Ulundel · **Reply #11 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:14:54 am

It's wierd anyway, why USA wants our support. I bet half of your government thinks Estonia is a new porn magazine or something.

01010 · **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:24:23 am

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Originally posted by Bobboau
no that is politics, what is sick is France and Germeny blocking efforts to prepaire defences for Turkey becase they don't want us to take out Sadam, that is one holy hell of a lot worse than us threatening not to suport you if you don't suport us, becase many people in Turkey could die in horable ways from this, Estonia joining NATO may lead to a less secure future but it does not ramp the prospects of you getting nailed for suporting you're allies in the very near future,
and besides why the hell do you want to join the North American Treaty Organisation, it sure as hell does not sound like you want to be on our side

I thought it was North ATLANTIC Treaty Organisation.

Ulundel · **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:26:14 am

Yeah, it is.

01010 · **Reply #14 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:32:42 am

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Originally posted by Ulundel
Yeah, it is.

Ah good

Bobboau · **Reply #15 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:36:45 am

I always thought it was american, oh well, generaly I am well informed screwed up there though, but the point I was trying to make was that NATO is basicly a bunch of contries that wants the USA to keep them safe, do not tell me the idea was not to keep the USSR at bay

I am sure 3/4ths of our people have never heard of you're contry up there with Latvia and Lithuania, maybe if I were to say one of those former Soviet contries south of Finland I might get an "oh" out of someone, there are a _lot_ of stupid americans and geography is not the most well studied subjects in our craptastic public schools,
but, beleve me when I say we realy could use your help on this one, you see you're one of the contries we, not too long ago, helped break away from the opressive USSR, we want to do a similar thing for the people of Iraq, were trying to make a point of this and you would have a rather unique perspective on being in a less than frendly contry,
the point were trying to make is that you remember what life was like when Estonia was just one of Russa's many absorbed contries, a thing the France and Germany may have forgoten

...but if you're going to turn you're backs on us, then you realy can't blame us for not wanting to help you.

I don't see this going any other way than Iraq war fighting, oh well, I've been itching for some good ole debate on the subject for months now

Ulundel · **Reply #16 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:40:04 am

Good points you have there Bo. Just we don't like the idea of attacking anyone and like Venom said - Bush is after the petrol.

Bobboau · **Reply #17 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:43:06 am

no he isn't, France is
and we didn't say you had to attack anyone, just let us
if you don't like dead people then you don't like Sadam, he makes them by the hudreds of thousands

Ulundel · **Reply #18 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:48:13 am

If you want Saddam, go get him. But what does America do - bombs half of the country down, kills civilians...

Bobboau · **Reply #19 on:** February 15, 2003, 07:02:46 am

not that many, most of them were placed there by Sadam himself, and we need to get not only Sadam but his entire ruleing groupe as well, and they are not going to come out willingly,
I garentee that unless Sadam starts packing his SAM sites with people or if he gasses Baghdad himself in his last throughs of rage (both quite likley) there will be fewer than 2,500 civilians killed at the most wich is far fewer than will die in that contry from Sadam if we do not atack

uh, I'm too tired to do this right now, my arguments are half baked and I'm going to screw up facts, please don't let this get close before I wake up again

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