[Baron MacDoblin]

Six monthes after the Second Great War, the GTVA is making progress on the Knossos device. A team of scientists led by the mad Dr. Diego Bortman Bortmius has managed to open a gate to another dimension - a dimension he claims holds the key to Shivan origins. When scout ships fail to report back, the GTVA fears the worst and assembles an RIF fleet of six Deimos corvettes, twelve Aeolus class cruisers, four Sobeks, and a Hecate battlewagon, with support fleets. Their mission is to perform a deep recon-in-force of the wormhole opened, and to establish a foothold for further GTVA activieties.

Unbeknowesnst to the GTVA, the crews are being led into a trap by Dr. Bortmius, who blames the GTVA for the destruction of his home colony and death of his brother thirty years before by the Lucifer. As soon as the battlegroup jumps through the Knossos, a bomb detonates on the Hecate, and the Knossos device collapses. The GTVA is effectively totally and completely stranded, and it gets worse.

The mad Doctor who holds the key to the battlegroup's safe return is terminally wounded and preserved in suspended animation. Not only that - the place the battlegroup has chosen to appear is no ordinary Shivan swarm, it is the Delta Quadrant, and they land straight in the middle of a battle between six Species 8472 cruisers and a fleet of Borg cubes.

Even if the battlefleet can defeat or escape the bugs and cubes, there is slim hope, since the science team responsible for retrofitting captured equipment disappeared en jump, possibly sabotoged. Thus, the fleet's only hope lies in rumors of a rich and technologically stable "Voyager Federation" lying some 125,000 light years away who - in theory, at least - possess the scientists and technology to revive Bortmius and return the fleet back.

Glare
I've got the support fleet consisting of 3 gas miners (to mine the nebulas for deuterium fuel), 6 leviathian cruisers for defence, a hippocrates medical frigate and a fleet tender of my design as the foundry ship (nothing uber though - based on the science vessel design). Plus quite a few GTVt Satis transports for war materiel resupply.

What I'm busy wrestling with is the relevant tech areas (sensors, engines, weapons, etc) and how they work. I mean, speeds in the game are referred to as "freespace units" not something real (thank god for the freespace modding tools  )

So if you get any other great ideas throw them my way.

Random p1mp4ge:

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?p=336308#336308

[Liberator]

Interesting and I would be interested in reading it but I'm afraid the GTVA is outmatched, setting Species 8472 aside(not something done lightly) leaves the Borg.  How many Cubes?  Does the fleet include Tactical variants? It boils down to:

1 Hecate(10k crew)
6 Deimos(2-3k crew)
12 Aeolus(550-600 crew)
4 Sobeks(2-3k crew)
6 Leviathans(300-400 crew)
3 Anukets(50-60 crew)
1 Hippocrates(200-300 crew + 100-150 medical staff)
Umpteen Satis(40-50 crew)
Total - 50,200 GTVA

VS.

24 Borg Cubes(30,000 drones)
Total - 720,000 Borg

The Borg have sheilds, transporters, and regenerative capability and 720,000 drones.

The GTVA has 5 wings of fighters which are too slow to catch the cubes, even slower capital ships, no big ship shields, no transporters, and 50,200 humans and Vasudans.

Basically the Borg get 50,200 new drones.  The GTVA doesn't really stand a chance.  If by some miracle the GTVA does manage to defeat the Borg, they've still got Species 8472 to deal with.  

They're toast with a side of sausage.

I used 24 cubes for that calculation because the Borg would lose with any fewer cubes.

:edit: I didn't mean to rain on your parade but you're comparing apples(the Borg) with choclate(the GTVA).

[diamondgeezer]

I always wanted to write a piece of GTVA fanfic, simply to shoehorn in the phrase "a single vessel, described as 'cube-shaped'"

[Galemp]

Originally posted by Baron MacDoblin
... and a Hecate battlewagon

Battlewagon?!

[karajorma]

Originally posted by GalacticEmperor


Battlewagon?!

It's a trailer full of helios bombs you attach to the hecate and pull along behind it

[Star Dragon]

In my Xanadu mission it takes 1 of each type ship ever released to fend off 9 cubes and 3 spheres. Vs. 6 Galactica class vessels, Ent-D, 1 minbari cruiser, The nike, the Warlock (with macross cannoninstalled on front #13), SDF-1, ect... Now this is NOT including the Ancients (that's overkill) but I think about 24 "allied" ships and about 36 fighters (a wing of each special type/ veritechs, vipers, x wings, starfuries ect) vs 12 borg is a 60%/40% win ratio. Now if only someone would arm the Atlantis station it wouldn't die in every game! The borg blow the piss out of it and there's nothing to be done but evacuate!

  I started a fanfic on another site about his but got deleted.  Had screen shots too for every chapter (1 visually applicable to the chapter). It starts with robotech and an alternate battletech earth then eventually includes EVERYONE!

   I'd suggest make the GTVA retreat fom the battle they find themseles in and take it from there. They probably lose a few ships, but should be able to break away from the combatants. Borg are concentrating on 8472, and the bugs got a mad on for cube shaped vessels so it is feesible they can "beat feet"  at least initially.  Good luck!

[RangerKarl]

You should take a look at the New Macross class ships...

[Exarch]

Here's the question though, would an EMP missile mess up the Borg just like they do everything else with electronics in it? If so, that could make it quite interesting :wink:

Also, the GTVA might actually have an advantage vs the Borg compared to Starfleet, as to my knowledge they aren't as totally dependant on energy weapons - the Borg may be able to absorb energy weapons after a while, but that's not much help if your enemy isn't hitting you with energy weapons. And for all I know the GTVA is still using good old fashioned guns as personal weapons.

Lack of shields is gonna hurt though, big time, even if they also bring comparatively bigger artillery to the battle (just my opinion, but I don't think a phaser or anything similar holds a candle to a BGreen).

[WMCoolmon]

If some sort of limitation on transporting is needed, you could say that the subspace drives on GTVA ships interferes with the Star Trek transporters.

[Hunter]

Kinda of ironic  that you post this, as over the past 2 days I've been working on some "Borg" ships, and ofcourse, weaponry. Sadly progress is pretty slow - But I've setup some  good fights, such as a Hecate Battlewagon (heh) vs a Lucifer loaded with borg weaponry (for testing purposes).  I got kinda stuck with the cube, and so I thought it'd be more practical to design a sphere, seeing as it's much smaller. Obviously the ship would have to be altered to better fit into the FS2 engine - Speedy capitals aren't that pretty. If anyone here is willing to lend a hand - A borg cube would be nice to play with ! But it started off as just a bit of fun, that's how it'll probably end

[Tiara]

Speed is vital here.

Borg ships are capable of Transwarp speeds. And normal cruising speeds are also quite high (Impuls speeds). And on top of that, you can decimate a cube 75% and it will still fight.

Then they have the tractor beam that rips the hull off a ship.

They have shields.

Drones have adaptive shielding.

etc

etc

etc

Borg decimate GTVA without any effort.

[Knight Templar]

Standard Cubes are 40km3 IIRC. How's that going to look good in FS at all?

BTW: Nice to see your still alive hunter

[Tiara]

And Borg cruise speed is warp 9.9

[Hunter]

Well its nice to know Im still alive too Knight . I'm back around because Freespace 2 Sector will be re-opening at the end of this week ! (with all fingers crossed)

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Hunt Smacker
because Freespace 2 Sector will be re-opening at the end of this week ! (with all fingers crossed)

[Knight Templar]

w00t!

[Star Dragon]

Phoenix V's borg pack.

Cube, Sphere, and dragon converted to borg scout with borg texture. Borg torpedo (Basis for converting my photon and quantoms), borg cuttingbeam, borg tractor repulser (pushes you away AND damages you at same time! Borg phaser... think that's it.


   This got me started on a ST mod but having a lot of trouble getting models to convert without crashing in PCS or in game (bad geometry I guess cause you can see the planes comming out of the models in fred and if you rotate them and intesect the planes fred crashes!) I screwed up Ent E cause I found a better model and now it crashes... Defiant has bad geometry too.. Good news though I got the Bab5 EA bulldog pof.ed textured and shielded!!! Works in game but nees subsystes , weapons, eyepoint, and oriented right. it drifts sideways right now.... I am working on dozens of models but need someone who has the time to do things to them and make them playable instead of just eyecandy!

l8tr...  (someone take my chig bomber PLEASE! )  

[diamondgeezer]

Originally posted by Star Dragon
...someone take my chig bomber PLEASE! )  

Gimme gimme gimme!

[Vertigo1]

"We are the Bor---"
*cube gets blown to atoms by beamfire*