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Offline Inquisitor

Have you submitted a bugzilla bug?

tell me what version it worked in, aand any other relevant details :)
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Offline IceFire

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Originally posted by Flaser


Hmm..torpedos still seem to be an issue.

I think some good points were already mentioned about them:

  • Massive payload
  • BIG size
  • more inteligent then a simple missile


Original torpedos were designed as "autonom ships" to deliver some explosives...and they were quite faulty.
In space the requirements are quite the same. They have a massive (in other words - damn expensive) warhead.
To get it delivered they either have armorplating or some fancy AI and speed.

So - torpedos should be:
BIG MAMUTH KILLER type
-big like a fighter (so only corvette should be big enough to mount one alone - maybe even a corvette may have only two launchers - and only a couple (2-4) of torpedos)
-->they may be treated as automatic crafts or drones
-do huge damage *much more than Helios - 3 torpedos hit - there goes a Hecate
-have an AI similar to a drone

Since they're so big there's no way a ship would fire more than a dozer or a little more - so they can be treated as a suicide fighter.

NIMBLE BASTARD type
-the torpedo's still big, but can be fitted even onto a bomber
-they do less damage - maybe they're for surgical strikes, so they do more damage to the system they hit
-even a frigate may fire them - but not in all directions like a missile - the torpedo is massive and the engineers better make sure they don't go off inside the hull.
-they are manuverable and skippy - they have an AI similar to a fighter on the run

Since a couple of dozens may be fired during a mission they can be treated as very inteligent missiles - some figter AI traits should be transfered.

*Ships with torpedos may have a torpedo vault - based on the number of torpedos left massive damage may await any ship that gets its storage blown :devil:

Ships may launch torpedos from a distance -  so foghters may have a chance of interception - easier than taking down a bomber, but lot harder then a bomb, since these bombs dodge and take a couple of hits.
...or from close range - which puts even the attacker in grave danger - if the torpedo goes off while being lauched - :devil: [/B]

And what part of that requires the source code?  I don't understand....
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Offline J.F.K.

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Originally posted by IceFire

And what part of that requires the source code?  I don't understand....


Exactly... I don't understand what qualities of the torpedoes you describe can't be attributed to ordinary missiles or bombs through table editting, and maybe a few new POFs.
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Offline Fry_Day

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I'm with GE. Right now the shield impact is displayed as an ANI on a square polygon created on the plane of the impacted polygon of the shield mesh, instead of conforming to the shield mesh. Basically it's just a bill-board (Not in DirectX SDK terms, just to signify, flat) right now, instead of the proper effect.

 

Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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Offline Rampage

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Originally posted by J.F.K.


Exactly... I don't understand what qualities of the torpedoes we describe can't be attributed to ordinary missiles or bombs through table editting, and maybe a few new POFs.


You must give the newbies their learning period.  Just be patient. :7

 

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Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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There's a thread all about that.

 

Offline Flaser

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Originally posted by IceFire

And what part of that requires the source code?  I don't understand....


In brief I'm not a coder - so I don't know.
In length there was a discussion a couple of moths ago wheter torpedos should be done like ships or a missiles.
I tried to collect the ideas and put them together in two feasible concepts that -imho- wouldn't hamper the game's balance to much.
About the true source part - it's AI and launching.
The big ones need an AI for a ship class that's a designed suicide fighter - I don't know how volition programed their own routine, I know it's already possible to set them in "kamikaze mode".
That concept also need the launching to be handled - the torpedos (or ships if it were a hangar) have to leave the tube in a certain angle and speed - and from inside the ship, appearing gradualy.
The small torpedo concept would need AI as well - to have the torpedo dodge incoming fire.

That's all.
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