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Who would win?

Admiral Bosch and the Neo-Terran Front
31 (50%)
Admiral Thrawn and the Galactic Empire
31 (50%)

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Voting closed: March 08, 2003, 01:20:24 am

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Offline Woolie Wool

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No, the MOVIES win, and since the SSD was 11 miles long in the MOVIE, it is 11 miles long becasue the supreme canon (the movie) says so. Just compare the sizes of the ISDs and the SSD in the movie and you'll see.:ha:


EDIT: AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH wrong button!
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

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Everybody has his/her private opinions about it.
You have done a dirty double post :)
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No, I mixed up the quote button with the edit button.
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

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But do you agree with me that all have different opinions?
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mwahaha.
I've alrady seen that thread in that same forum, methinks :p.
Not gonna read it all, but I'm sure I can guess what in there, so:
mmh... first would be, then, the bosh vs thrawn thing. regardless the thing that thrawn would win just coz he has way more ships ( others will reply that Bosh, ok, let's extend to the whole GTVA to be fair, has alpha1 ), that would lead to... mmh... colossus VS ISD. that would lead to beams cut throuhg shields. blablabla, people will argue that SW shields aren't FS shields and so beams would be useless, but as this argument can't be backed up by anything, someone will throw the SSD in to replace the ISD. which will lead to the insane powers of SW lasers. ah, since it's about the SSD, there's about 99% chances the thread has gone about how large the SSD really is ( about 18 km long, the rpg book is wrong, measurements from the movie gives it between 16.2 and 18.1 kms long. people will claim that the official size is, I think, 12.4 kms long -I didn't learn all those things, I've just seen that discussion so many times it's probably not even healthy. To that I'll anwser that when tESB first aired, Lucas Film gave away flyers, one of them being about the SSD, stating it was 18km longs. If that's not official, I dunno what is ).
So, I was talking about the lasers strengh, sorry for that SSD size digression. Mmh, another discussion I've had often, with Killmenow mainly ( a SW freak, if not THE SW freak :p ). argument will start with the fact that a sole ISD could beat up the colossus to pulp. other side will reply that yeah, of course, according to fluff, a single SSD salvo should be enough to destroy a planet anyway ( who needs a death star? ). SW side will reply that no, of course, since it's lasers, they just work on a small area. otehrs will reply that in that case the impact is not what would really deal the damage, but the fact it would vaporize the atmosphere during the shot entry, causing effects similar to a nuke. the SW size, not knowing what to reply, will say that the other guy is a physics phreak that has can prove nothing, and will just mock him up, since he has no real argument to offer to counter that. etc etc etc, then, eventually, Shrike will show up and say that it doesn't matter, since the culture ships will own everybody and the others too, coz they can.
I wonder how close I am about this thread, but I won't bother checking, actually. HAH, I hadmy share of fun for today :p
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mwahaha.
I've alrady seen that thread in that same forum, methinks :p.
Not gonna read it all, but I'm sure I can guess what in there, so:
mmh... first would be, then, the bosh vs thrawn thing. regardless the thing that thrawn would win just coz he has way more ships ( others will reply that Bosh, ok, let's extend to the whole GTVA to be fair, has alpha1 ), that would lead to... mmh... colossus VS ISD. that would lead to beams cut throuhg shields. blablabla, people will argue that SW shields aren't FS shields and so beams would be useless, but as this argument can't be backed up by anything, someone will throw the SSD in to replace the ISD. which will lead to the insane powers of SW lasers. ah, since it's about the SSD, there's about 99% chances the thread has gone about how large the SSD really is ( about 18 km long, the rpg book is wrong, measurements from the movie gives it between 16.2 and 18.1 kms long. people will claim that the official size is, I think, 12.4 kms long -I didn't learn all those things, I've just seen that discussion so many times it's probably not even healthy. To that I'll anwser that when tESB first aired, Lucas Film gave away flyers, one of them being about the SSD, stating it was 18km longs. If that's not official, I dunno what is ).
So, I was talking about the lasers strengh, sorry for that SSD size digression. Mmh, another discussion I've had often, with Killmenow mainly ( a SW freak, if not THE SW freak :p ). argument will start with the fact that a sole ISD could beat up the colossus to pulp. other side will reply that yeah, of course, according to fluff, a single SSD salvo should be enough to destroy a planet anyway ( who needs a death star? ). SW side will reply that no, of course, since it's lasers, they just work on a small area. otehrs will reply that in that case the impact is not what would really deal the damage, but the fact it would vaporize the atmosphere during the shot entry, causing effects similar to a nuke. the SW size, not knowing what to reply, will say that the other guy is a physics phreak that has can prove nothing, and will just mock him up, since he has no real argument to offer to counter that. etc etc etc, then, eventually, Shrike will show up and say that it doesn't matter, since the culture ships will own everybody and the others too, coz they can.
I wonder how close I am about this thread, but I won't bother checking, actually. HAH, I hadmy share of fun for today :p



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*wonders why they would put different info on the website than they used in the movie*

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My money is on Thrawn.

Thrawn outwitted the Republic on numerous occasions, the only reason Bosch survived was because the GTVA let him get away, twice. In my opinion, considering there is practically no way of comparing ships from the 2 universes, it all boils down to tactical capability, and Thrawn, in my opinion, has far more than Bosch.

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My money is on Thrawn.

Thrawn outwitted the Republic on numerous occasions, the only reason Bosch survived was because the GTVA let him get away, twice. In my opinion, considering there is practically no way of comparing ships from the 2 universes, it all boils down to tactical capability, and Thrawn, in my opinion, has far more than Bosch.

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But what if Bosch knew the GTVA would let him get away and that was his whole plan all along? You can't say he isn't a tactical genius because he took what was offered to him. :p
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LOL True, but when Thrawn retreated, he usually had a trap ready for those that pursued.

I think the problem we face here is that the two Admirals are working on completely different agendas, Thrawn knows he is attempting to destroy the new republic, whereas Bosch believed he was trying to save humanity, even if it was never explained exactly how ;)

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Right. It wasn't like Bosch was trying to destroy the GTVA really, only gather what he needed to get ETAK working and to open the Knossos Portal.
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Hmmmmmm.... I suppose Bosch does earn some points on the sneakiness scale for one thing.

It's sneaky enough to mislead the enemy about your goals.
It's even sneakier to mislead your own people about your goals ;)

I still remember from the Star Wars books, and the scientists attempting to decide how best to use the Prototype Death star. That was probably one of the funniest scenes from a book not written by Terry Pratchett that I have read in ages :)

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