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Offline Raptor

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on: March 14, 2003, 10:12:54 am
I did consider putting this in my 'fighter' thread, but as it's such a diffrent craft, well....

It's a scaned image of the design, done on graph paper with pencil.  I added some shading to help show the shape.

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Presenting:

The GTB Trogen

It's a big bomber.  It's a very big bomber.  In fact, its massive!
It's main role: killing Sathanas Juggernauts.
The idea is that a wing of these, alone, may/could/should take out a Sathanas, and its fighter wings.

http://www.angelfire.com/space2/raptorsnest/trogen.html

The little stick man is TO SCALE

I scared myself when I counted how many missiles it COULD carry...:shaking:

Constructive Critism, please :D
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Offline diamondgeezer

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Reply #1 on: March 14, 2003, 10:29:40 am
Dude, it's basically a giant version of the Athena...
 

Offline Raptor

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Reply #2 on: March 14, 2003, 10:51:13 am
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Dude, it's basically a giant version of the Athena...


I Know, I forgot to mention, It's developed from the Athena, possibly the best bomber in the game IMHO.

This is the fith redesign, BTW

Any more opinons, comments, suggestions?
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Offline Knight Templar

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Reply #3 on: March 14, 2003, 11:28:17 am
What Geezer said.. that and it's not that big for making it sound so powerful. BWO has a 95 meter long bomber, but I don't think it's that powerful.
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Offline karajorma

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Reply #4 on: March 14, 2003, 11:37:53 am
Looks good. Now model it :yes:

As for making big bombers you might wish to start calling them gunships once they start hitting that sort of size. Then again you might not :)
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Offline demon442

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Reply #5 on: March 15, 2003, 12:39:43 am
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Originally posted by karajorma
As for making big bombers you might wish to start calling them gunships once they start hitting that sort of size. Then again you might not :)


Gunship nothing, that thing looks to be the size of a corvette.
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Offline aldo_14

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Reply #6 on: March 15, 2003, 07:51:01 am
Meh. I've got bigger.
 

Offline Tiara

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Reply #7 on: March 15, 2003, 08:12:09 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Meh. I've got bigger.


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Offline aldo_14

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Reply #8 on: March 15, 2003, 09:36:44 am
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Originally posted by Tiara


You are really sure of yourself aren't ya? :p


Yup
 

Offline Thor

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Reply #9 on: March 15, 2003, 12:13:24 pm
could be a gunship.  (sorry, been playing to much FL, but still....)
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Offline Raptor

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Reply #10 on: March 16, 2003, 03:55:53 am
well, I could increase the length by 50% (90m long then), doulbe the width of the missile bays, add 50% to the first gun bank (to become a 12 point gunbank!:eek: ) and add an extra half-dozen sentrygun turrets, and then yes, it would be a BIG bomber/gunship.

But if I do that, we get into the region of stupid payloads.

It currently can carry 6 helios torpedos and 144 trebuchets.  With 4 sentrygun turrets, 2 quad maned turrets, and an aft firing hornet missile turret.

With all the increases above, thats now 2 quad maned turrets, an aft firing hornet missile turret, 10 sentrygun turrets, 16 helioses, and over 300 trebuchets...

Now that is SICK.........
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Offline RangerKarl

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Reply #11 on: March 16, 2003, 04:27:01 am
Dude, I live for stupid payloads. Lemme at her!
 

Offline Fetty

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Reply #12 on: March 16, 2003, 10:07:12 am
woomeister has he biggest ships :D
 

Offline Star Dragon

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Reply #13 on: March 16, 2003, 12:23:58 pm
I LOVE your ship!   Could the Defiant possibly be an influence? Looking at teh pics it somehow rememinded me first of Athena and then Defiant... (thought your bomber is half the size)...
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Offline deep_eyes

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Reply #14 on: March 16, 2003, 12:26:02 pm
me thinks if u want a "pilotable" gunship for freespace, it wouldnt have to be like bomber style. i mean when u think bomber, u would think a bomber has anywhere from a couple BIG ASS BOMBS (like the new MOAB's), and such, but more conventional bombs.

A american gunship for example like the Apache helicopter, considered a gunship, has 1 big ass primary gun, high firerate and damage rate, as well as 8 missile launchers with heavy payloads. lets say the size of a Ares or a Herc2, with more the agility of say a myrmydon, like the Apache, if it had the ability to strafe as well in FS, then it would be similar. but basically, u want a ship that can be a massive artillery delivery platform and an agile "gunship" itself to boot. sorta like an extremly heavy fighter with the capacity to say hold 200 tornadoes, and 50 trebuchets, but not the capacity of a bomber.
 

Offline Raptor

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Reply #15 on: March 16, 2003, 01:15:35 pm
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Originally posted by RangerKarl
Dude, I live for stupid payloads. Lemme at her!


Quote
Originally posted by Star Dragon
I LOVE your ship! Could the Defiant possibly be an influence? Looking at teh pics it somehow rememinded me first of Athena and then Defiant... (thought your bomber is half the size)...


At last, some people who like it! ;)

The original design was for 16 helios torpedos, but arranged diffrently.

SD, I was aiming mainly for the big, bad brother of the Athena.  The current design is over three times the length of the Athena.  It was also at the outset going to have a beam cannon mounted under the cokpit (hence the three engine arrangement). The back engine would have been there mainly to power it.

This version is based on the A10 Tank Killer, with many more smaller missiles, and the big ASS gun under the nose.  Its meant to be a six barrelled, rotary, long-barrelled, HE Maxim cannon with the caliber increased by 50% :D The gun system would be as long as the Hercules.

I would call it the Avenger cannon, but that names aready used..:(

I have to admit, I still not so keen on the outer engines, even after a dozen redesigns...

Any suggestions?

Oh, BTW, just to confuse you all, I have an idea for a 125m long Terran light cruiser, player-flyable, with a hangerbay, based on the Whitestar ;7

Blame Killfrenzy for giving me the idea of large player-flyable ships....
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Offline pyro-manic

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Reply #16 on: March 20, 2003, 07:20:52 am
Hmmm, I quite like this!

It's actually not that big, to be honest. The Ursa is 45m long, and there are some huge  bombers being made for some campaigns at the moment.

If you want it to be able to take out a Sath, then you need to give it a weakness somewhere. It should be really slow, or be targetable by capship beams, or something, because otherwise it's gonna be too damn good!

Also, make a new weapon for it - a massive rocket, or a really powerful cannon (the A-10 one would be good!) that can chew up capital ships really easily.
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yeh
Reply #17 on: March 20, 2003, 09:17:57 am
Big gun?


Big bomber?
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Offline diamondgeezer

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Reply #18 on: March 20, 2003, 11:40:22 am
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Originally posted by TrashMan
Big gun?


Piccie the first --> good model, naff textures. Put some decent texes on it and you're on to a winner, methinks :nod:
 

Offline CP5670

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Reply #19 on: March 20, 2003, 03:27:23 pm
:wtf: does naff mean enough or something? (sorry, haven't got used to some of this slang :p)
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