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Offline SKYNET-011

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on: March 18, 2003, 04:06:45 pm
Anyone know where I can get a Midi to Wav converter?
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Reply #1 on: March 18, 2003, 04:32:33 pm
You can't.

You can only conventionally record the midi file as it plays.

The reason for this is that a midi file isn't actually a music file, it's just a set of instructions that tells your sound card how to play the music (hence the reason midi files sound different depending on the sound card).  It is the sound card that produces the music rather than just playing it from a digital file.

It is possible that there may be a software synthesiser program out there somewhere capable of synthing the midi file into it's musical form and then converting that into another format such as wave.  But I don't know of such a program so can't really help you there.

As I said before, your best bet is to try recording the midi file while it is playing (asuming that you have the programs and that your sound card can play an record at the same time).
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Reply #2 on: March 18, 2003, 04:34:45 pm
I have never seen anything that does this; as elorran said, the best method here is to simply play and record the file simultaneously. Most soundcards (SBLive, for one) I have seen can directly recieve input from the synthesizer with an appropriate setting in the recording properties window.
 

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Reply #3 on: March 18, 2003, 04:38:16 pm
Easy: Winamp 2.x. Options > Preferences... > Plug-ins > Output > Nullsoft Disk Writer plug-in. Choose to configure it, select the directory to store the file in, choose "convert to:" PCM, 44.100kHz, 16 bit, Stereo. Output File mode: Force WAV file.

Open and play the MIDI you want, making sure to turn off repeat! Otherwise, it will play it again and again, taking up enormous amounts of HDD space.

Also, make sure it's the only thing in the playlist, for the same reason as above.
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Reply #4 on: March 18, 2003, 04:43:08 pm
Doesn't work.  Midi files aren't digital audio they are simply instruction files for your sound cards midi chip (midi chips are what make music keyboards work).
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Reply #5 on: March 18, 2003, 04:44:35 pm
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Originally posted by elorran
Doesn't work.  Midi files aren't digital audio they are simply instruction files for your sound cards midi chip (midi chips are what make music keyboards work).


Gah - you're right, apparently. I tested it, and I didn't get any file. :-/
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Reply #6 on: March 18, 2003, 05:29:49 pm
Just to clarify, it doesn't work with WinAmp. Recording from your sound program of choice does work though.
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Reply #7 on: March 18, 2003, 10:14:02 pm
it's possible, but using a different method (though Sandwich's first attempt was what i was going to say ;) )

go to www.download.com and search for "TOTAL RECORDER" in 'downloads'.

download it
open the file
install the program
open the program

now make sure all programs using sound are closed.  press 'record'... now play the MIDI.  TOTAL RECORDER detects the sound coming out of your speakers, and starts recording.  i don't think it stops though, i can't remember.

*note to everyone:*
total recorder records everything... game sounds, etc.  so it can be useful for cutscenes, etc.
 

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Reply #8 on: March 18, 2003, 11:14:55 pm
The only way I know how to do it is to set your recording source from microphone to MIDI via the recording options in Volume Control.
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Reply #9 on: March 19, 2003, 03:06:30 am
Ok, I figured out how. Double-click on the volume ontrol in the taskbar.  The Play Control dialog should pop-up. Options > Properties > Adjust volume for: set to Recording. Make sure MIDI is checked in the "Show the following volume controls" display below. Click Ok.

In the new Record Control, select the MIDI Balance channel, and place the volume level somewhere in the middle.

Open up Start > Programs > Accessories > Entertainment > Sound Recorder (or your WAV recorder of choice). Load up the MIDI file in Winamp or whatever player you want to use. Hit the record button, and start Winamp playing.

NOTE: My Sound Recorder seems only capable of recording 60 seconds of sounds, so you may want something a bit more capable. Anything should do.
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Reply #10 on: March 19, 2003, 10:37:08 am
but my way will worktoo ;)
 

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Reply #11 on: March 19, 2003, 12:28:00 pm
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but my way will worktoo ;)
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Reply #12 on: March 19, 2003, 01:00:47 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Ok, I figured out how. Double-click on the volume ontrol in the taskbar.  The Play Control dialog should pop-up. Options > Properties > Adjust volume for: set to Recording. Make sure MIDI is checked in the "Show the following volume controls" display below. Click Ok.

In the new Record Control, select the MIDI Balance channel, and place the volume level somewhere in the middle.

Open up Start > Programs > Accessories > Entertainment > Sound Recorder (or your WAV recorder of choice). Load up the MIDI file in Winamp or whatever player you want to use. Hit the record button, and start Winamp playing.

NOTE: My Sound Recorder seems only capable of recording 60 seconds of sounds, so you may want something a bit more capable. Anything should do.


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Reply #13 on: March 19, 2003, 01:10:19 pm
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Is that not what I said earlier?
Yes, just in more detail.
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Reply #14 on: March 19, 2003, 04:10:17 pm
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Yes, just in more detail.


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Reply #15 on: March 19, 2003, 08:14:25 pm
Unless your running it through a really nice synth, its still going to largely sound like the garbage that general MIDI is.  Now sometimes its pretty good and heck I still pull out a ole WC2 MIDI for nostalga's sake...but its just not like a nice digitally recorded MP3.
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Reply #16 on: March 20, 2003, 06:42:34 am
True, but some midi's just sound great on the right sound card.  The feelings just something that you can't replace even with MP3.
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Reply #17 on: March 20, 2003, 06:59:57 am
Google is your friend:

http://www.midi2wav.com/

http://www.audiohero.com/midi_to_wav.htm   - I recommend, having used it myself
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Reply #18 on: March 20, 2003, 10:25:54 am
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True, but some midi's just sound great on the right sound card.  The feelings just something that you can't replace even with MP3.
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Reply #19 on: March 20, 2003, 10:38:47 am
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Unless your running it through a really nice synth, its still going to largely sound like the garbage that general MIDI is.  Now sometimes its pretty good and heck I still pull out a ole WC2 MIDI for nostalga's sake...but its just not like a nice digitally recorded MP3.


My current computer just uses the SBLive synthesizer, which it sounds pretty terrible for the most part, but my older one had some strange software sythesizer called the Yamaha SYXG50 in addition to the standard Vortex1 hardware one. This one sounded really, really good on certain files, especially on a couple of the Descent 2 fanmade missions' tracks and some other older games.
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