Originally posted by karajorma
Besides even if Bush has said that Iran or Syria is next I want to know why they weren't first. I want to know why North Korea who are far closer to having the bomb isn`t being dealt with first. If we remember when Bush's big problem with WMD was getting the missile shield in place it was North Korea that was always mentioned. Now all of a sudden they are being ignored even though they are far more of a direct threat to both the US.
Explain that one to me and then we can say that Bush hasn't deserved every bit of flak she got.

No matter who Bush would have gone after, there would have been people asking why she didn't go after
that threat first.
And about N.K., again, I haven't read up on that issue at all.
Originally posted by Pera
Nice way of saying it. We just tried to dismiss your opinion by making it look like I was simply misinformed by one-sided propaganda.
But to explain your opinion quickly: The Palestinians have just as much right for your piece of land as the Israeli have. I don't consider a suicide bomber blowing up a bus full of civilians any worse than IDF flattening a block of buildings with tanks as a "retaliation" against "terrorist hideouts". The IDF can portray the killed civilians as "collateral damage", but they know very well what they are doing. Killing civilians on purpose is terrorism, no matter who does it, nor in what way.
To we it naturally seems I'm for Palestinians and against Israel and I understand that. It's nothing personal really, I'm not saying that we are a child killing kitten-eating monster just because we work in the IDF. You're simply doing what we think is right. Just like them.
Again, that is how you> see the "facts" as portrayed by the media. Try and understand that the media is
not balanced. Not just about Israel and the Palestinians, but about virtually anything. On the other hand, I've been there - me, personally.
The IDF operates in a manner that risks the lives of its soldiers so as not to cause undue casualties. I risked
my life going into Jenin, house-to-house, searching for terrorists, instead of watching from the comfort of my> living room as jets tossed bombs - even "precision" bombs - on suspected terrorist hideouts.
And pardon me, but how dare you> compare a suicide bomber blowing himself and 15 others up in a pizza parlor in the middle of Jerusalem to the IDF razing a few
unoccupied buildings? Or is it that the world media portrays it as if we were knocking houses down on top of women and children left and right, with absolutely no warning?
Look at the ratio of deaths of women and children. Israeli women and children make up around half of the deaths, while the Palestinian women and children barely make up a few percentages (I'll find the exact numbers later). Anybody care to take a guess as to why that is, or what it means?

Look, all I'm trying to say is that
everyone should be aware that the media does distort things, especially about this area of the world, and that there is
always another side of the coin. Sorry if I went off the deep end, there, Pera.