Author Topic: FS1 loophole  (Read 5802 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Hippo

  • Darth water-horse
  • 211
  • Grazing.
    • All Hands to War
[loophole]
the GTA had to take a while and discover the easiest way to put an intersystem subspace drive into a fighter. the vasudans had already done it. Isis. its smaller than a ulysseys, so the power system can't be much bigger, and yet it makes inter-system jumps.
[/loophole]

--Hippo
VBB Survivor -- 387 Posts -- July 3 2001 - April 12 2002
VWBB Survivor -- 100 Posts -- July 10 2002 - July 10 2004

AHTW

 

Offline diamondgeezer

Have a medal

 

Offline Stryke 9

  • Village Person
    Reset count: 4
  • 211
Ooh! Is it shiny? I want one!

 
 

Offline Knight Templar

  • Stealth
  • 212
  • I'm a magic man, I've got magic hands.
Now if only command would remember to use the node to earth from Alpha Centauri...
Copyright ©1976, 2003, KT Enterprises. All rights reserved

"I don't want to get laid right now. I want to get drunk."- Mars

Too Long, Didn't Read

 

Offline Liberator

  • Poe's Law In Action
  • 210
The Earth side was proably collapsed when Luci went up like a roman candle...yeah, that's a suitable "don't ruin the sequel by correcting continuity errors from the first one answer".

Truth be told they could probalby make the trip from Alpha Centauri by using a series of subspace jumps.  That would still be a long trip, jumping intra-system distances at a time like that.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 
Quote
Originally posted by Liberator
That would still be a long trip, jumping intra-system distances at a time like that.
But wouldn't that be impossible too, I thought intra-system jumps had to be done within the gravitational influence of the system... and inter-system jumps use the nodes.
The nick is not a typo, it's a pun.

 

Offline Liberator

  • Poe's Law In Action
  • 210
It is assumed that Intersystem subspace nodes exist at the lagrange point(s) between a system's primary and the largest planets within the system.

However, because all the ships seem capable of prying their way into subspace without a node(at the end of every mission) we can assume that they are capable of jumping into subspace for su-interstellar travel without a node of any kind, unless the drives themselves carry some kind of micronode as part of the core or something.

I mean if a natural node was required to make the transition to subspace, there would be ships backed up dozens of kilometers to make use of them.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline Galemp

  • Actual father of Samus
  • 212
  • Ask me about GORT!
    • Steam
    • User page on the FreeSpace Wiki
Go back to the tech room, Lib. There are intra-system drives that only work within a system, and inter-system drives that require the use of a node. All ships have intra-system drives but, until the last missions of FS1, inter-system drives weren't able to be mounted on fighters.
"Anyone can do any amount of work, provided it isn't the work he's supposed to be doing at that moment." -- Robert Benchley

Members I've personally met: RedStreblo, Goober5000, Sandwich, Splinter, Su-tehp, Hippo, CP5670, Terran Emperor, Karajorma, Dekker, McCall, Admiral Wolf, mxlm, RedSniper, Stealth, Black Wolf...

 

Offline Hippo

  • Darth water-horse
  • 211
  • Grazing.
    • All Hands to War
Quote
Originally posted by Liberator

I mean if a natural node was required to make the transition to subspace, there would be ships backed up dozens of kilometers to make use of them.


*BEEP BEEP*
Get moving you juggernaught

*yelling* hey you in the corvette! yeah, you, hurry up! i got a sun to destroy!

ooh! Toll Booths! charge by the passenger... a dollar each... ;7 :devil: :drevil:
« Last Edit: April 06, 2003, 01:08:48 pm by 681 »
VBB Survivor -- 387 Posts -- July 3 2001 - April 12 2002
VWBB Survivor -- 100 Posts -- July 10 2002 - July 10 2004

AHTW

 

Offline diamondgeezer

Hippo, have you only just discovered the spoiler tag or what? That's two pointless uses in one night...

 

Offline Hippo

  • Darth water-horse
  • 211
  • Grazing.
    • All Hands to War
VBB Survivor -- 387 Posts -- July 3 2001 - April 12 2002
VWBB Survivor -- 100 Posts -- July 10 2002 - July 10 2004

AHTW

 

Offline Vertigo1

  • 'Scaper
  • 28
Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar
Now if only command would remember to use the node to earth from Alpha Centauri...


Yeah, but with command being incompetent about everything else, is this really a big suprise? ;)
Gargoyles, Season 1.  Buy it, or DIE! :)

"Professor! This ship is capable of traveling 90 percent the speed of light! Why are we only doing 35 miles an hour!" - Leela
"Because we're in a hurry!" - Professor

"from a purely stastical standpoint japanese men DO have smaller penii on average" - Kazan

  

Offline Black Wolf

  • Twisted Infinities
  • 212
  • Hey! You! Get off-a my cloud!
    • Visit the TI homepage!
Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar
Now if only command would remember to use the node to earth from Alpha Centauri...


Or either Earth and/Or the GTVA would send  few radio messages from Alpha Centauri to Earth, or Vice Versa. Even a simple "We're not Dead" would be a decent start, and it'd only take 4 yers to get there.
TWISTED INFINITIES · SECTORGAME· FRONTLINES
Rarely Updated P3D.
Burn the heretic who killed F2S! Burn him, burn him!!- GalEmp

 

Offline Knight Templar

  • Stealth
  • 212
  • I'm a magic man, I've got magic hands.
But ALpH4 CeNturaI is teh \/4$uDaN SystuM!!11
Copyright ©1976, 2003, KT Enterprises. All rights reserved

"I don't want to get laid right now. I want to get drunk."- Mars

Too Long, Didn't Read

 

Offline Petrarch of the VBB

  • Koala-monkey
  • 211
I belive that the size of the Isis is an error. To this end, I propose it be at least doubled.

 
What about the basic terran transport (the one that`s shaped like a grey rectangular box)

That thing is not much larger (IMO) than the herc fighter and not an URSA, especially when you have to consider that most of the size inside is given over to carrying people and stuff...

A fighter is all engine and weaponry (tiny cockpit for 1 person)

Surely the engine space could have a subspace drive in it...


AHHHHH HANG ON.

One possible explanation (or way out).

A freighter does not travel very fast compared to fighters, nor does it have many weapons OR the ability to bank fast in a fight.
So, what if the "inertial drive) which is needed to allow fighters to bank so quicky interferes with the subspace drive of fighters but not freighters even if they are smaller.
The GTVA solving the puzzle of making a fighter jump inter could be down to solving the incompatibility of the drive systems.
(bombers have a problem due to the massive inertia drive required by them)

Anyone else, care to step up and come up with a T.B.S explanation?

;7
You`d need more than a lightsabre to kick a shivans arse!!!

I pick wahoonies for a living! Maybe that why I have no friends,

 

Offline Petrarch of the VBB

  • Koala-monkey
  • 211
Quote
Originally posted by hobnob1978
What about the basic terran transport (the one that`s shaped like a grey rectangular box)

That thing is not much larger (IMO) than the herc fighter and not an URSA,


I take it you mean the Elysium. The thing is actually quite large. Play that FS1 mission where you have to capture MacCarthy. If you disable the Isis (rasputin I thinks it called) you will see an Elysium dock with it, and you will be greatly shock by the size difference.

 

Offline CP5670

  • Dr. Evil
  • Global Moderator
  • 212
Quote
Or either Earth and/Or the GTVA would send  few radio messages from Alpha Centauri to Earth, or Vice Versa. Even a simple "We're not Dead" would be a decent start, and it'd only take 4 yers to get there.


This Earth communication issue has been brought up a couple of times around here; I personally think that the best explanation is that the GTVA has actually contacted Sol but either did not recieve any response at all or got some distressing news, and are not publicizing it to prevent public morale from suffering.

 

Offline Petrarch of the VBB

  • Koala-monkey
  • 211
Sounds about right.