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Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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Real Klein Bottles!

ACME Klein Bottles

 

Offline J.F.K.

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:shaking:

Klein bottles hurt my head...
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Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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Quite.

Buy one and use it as a specimen bottle!

 

Offline Fetty

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hmm interesting

 

Offline Rictor

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can someone explain to me what a klein bottle is and why they're special??

  

Offline Odyssey

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can someone explain to me what a klein bottle is and why they're special??

Look closely at the images on the page. It would seem that the base of the thing comes in, then out, around, and into the main area again. Craziness. I want one!

 

Offline Stryke 9

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They're awesome, though I've always wondered how in the hell they make those things.

 

Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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More importantly, how would you get anything in or out of them?

 

Offline Stryke 9

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Pour it in the bottom.

 

Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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Yes, but you then have to rotate the bottle to get it into the body of it. This makes pouring stuff out very awkward.

 

Offline Goober5000

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A Klein bottle is a three-dimensional Mobius loop.  Brief explanation:

A Mobius loop is made by taking a two-dimensional strip, giving it a half-twist, and joining the ends.  It only has one edge, and the left is the same as the right.  The half-twist requires the use of the third dimension.

A Klein bottle is made by taking a three-dimensional cylinder, giving it a half-twist, and joining the ends.  It only has one face, and the inside is the same as the outside.  The half-twist requires the use of the fourth dimension.

Obviously, since we can't use the fourth dimension to make a Klein bottle, the bottle intersects itself.  (A Mobius strip would also intersect itself if you only had two dimensions to make it in.)

CP can probably wax more poetic on the coolness of the Klein bottle. :drevil:

 

Offline Stryke 9

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It's really not designed as a storage tool. It's a cool toy.

 

Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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I am going to build a huge one and live in it!

 

Offline SKYNET-011

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:wtf:

I'm still confused...
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so am i
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Originally posted by Goober5000
A Klein bottle is a three-dimensional Mobius loop.  Brief explanation:

A Mobius loop is made by taking a two-dimensional strip, giving it a half-twist, and joining the ends.  It only has one edge, and the left is the same as the right.  The half-twist requires the use of the third dimension.

A Klein bottle is made by taking a three-dimensional cylinder, giving it a half-twist, and joining the ends.  It only has one face, and the inside is the same as the outside.  The half-twist requires the use of the fourth dimension.

Obviously, since we can't use the fourth dimension to make a Klein bottle, the bottle intersects itself.  (A Mobius strip would also intersect itself if you only had two dimensions to make it in.)

CP can probably wax more poetic on the coolness of the Klein bottle. :drevil:


I knew what Klein bottles were, but cool explanation anyway. :yes:
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Offline Vertigo1

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Heh, I never thought anyone would actually spend time to actually make one of those things. :p  That'd make for a neat lava lamp. :D
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Offline CP5670

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Hey cool, maybe I should get one of those. :D That is not really a true Klein bottle though, since as Goober said, it cannot be realized in 3D due to the fact that it passes through itself. There is some information on it here: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/KleinBottle.html

This surface looks pretty normal though compared to some of the other stuff out there... ;7

 

Offline tEAbAG

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What the damn?

Them thingies is cool, but where are the four-dimensional ones?

Oh wait... there they are!!!  If I could only reach that... Ah! my hand disappered!:shaking:
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