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Offline Nico

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They didn`t expect it to be as successful as it turned out to be but apparently the stuff in Zion that will be in the second movie was supposed to be in the first but would have made the movie too long.


that doesn't make a second and third movie. at most, that'd make a direct's cut :p
funny there's never been any words about any sequel until they found out it would be such a hit.
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Of course. It'd be pretty hard to get a sequel outta the Matrix, unless corporate greed was the motive- that can move mountains. I mean, okay, let's look at the end. We've got Keanu Reeves, who's basically God now. He can't die, he can do whatever he wants within the Matrix, he has stupid lines. He flies. Outside, you've got somewhere between a hundred and a billion big black tentacly killer robots, who can kill him pretty much right off and there's damn little he can do about it. And he's trying to wipe out humanity, and we're rooting for him.

So... how DO you top that? Make a thousand magic fairies come down and join the fight? Introduce Kryptonite into the act?

 

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alien ( Giger's Alien I mean ) invasion plus a few predators for the fun.
how's that? :D
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aliens can make sequels for anything :yes:

 

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Yes. Aliens make everything better.

 
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You wouldn't say that if you'd been at my last dinner party.

 

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yes, aliens tend to have the worst table manners:p
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Im sure i read it somewhere that they had planned the matrix sequals, but it kinda hinged on the sucsess of the origonal as to wether they would go into production or not ... IIRC
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Im sure i read it somewhere that they had planned the matrix sequals, but it kinda hinged on the sucsess of the origonal as to wether they would go into production or not ... IIRC


of course it could, same goes for, say, starwars. there's stories where they've written enough for a few sequels, and I guess many movies which never had sequels because they didn't do so well have the synopsys of a "2" in the storywriter's desk.
The thing is, Matrix doesn't sound like this to me. It works great as it is, there's nothing to add. SWep4 ( which first had no "episode" **** whatsoever, then when shown in europe had "episode1" attached to it :doubt: ) worked well alone too ( yeah, even the happy end ), but there was a lot of stuff to explain/deal with. you never felt like SW is mor like a stand-alone movie plus a two-parts sequel?
Now take a movie you loved, one with things you don't understand " what the hell happened to the bad guy at the end?". probably had a sequel planed, but didn't work well enough for it to be produced.
So, and the deal about Matrix:
well, compare this:
-"fans, everybody in the world, by witnessing the success of our movie, we feel like it would please everybody if we were to work our ass off to make a sequel and expand the universe we've created"
-"fans, now that you've seen what's went in the first chapter, are you ready for chapter 2 of the huge trilogy story that is The Matrix?"
which one makes you want to see it more? the "cool, people, we've made a sequel to make more money, come, come!" or the " yeah, we have a fully elaborated three chapters movies series that have been all worked together and will complete each other to form a seamless completly story".
The choice of which to say is pretty obvious to me, and to the producers.
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Offline diamondgeezer

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I was just going to say something similiar - SW is much like the Matrix in that Episode 4 could have stood alone if it had flopped. It was uber sucessful, so they made two more. Same deal with the Matrix.

 

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I was just going to say something similiar - SW is much like the Matrix in that Episode 4 could have stood alone if it had flopped. It was uber sucessful, so they made two more. Same deal with the Matrix.


That's right. The designer's intentions are only half the story. It all has to be commercially successful for any of it to take off.
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While not a sequel, I'm surprised no one's mentioned The Hulk. link goes to a fansite

Check the International trailer. :yes: :nod:
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me too, but with a lot of well-established film franchises releasing sequels to top movies this year i'm not surprised that the hulk has been obscured by the shadows of the other releases this year, either that, or it hasn't been hyped as much...
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Do you belive everything you read?
For LOTR I know it's ment to be a 3act book.
As for Matrix, I'm not sure. They probably made a quicky story after they saw it was sucessfull, and now say that it as a trilogy from the beginning!
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with all the work the work put in the Matrix it moght very well be likley that it was ment as a trilogy from the start. It's just extremely difficult to get a studio to actually fund some new kids on the block and three movies they want to make. In fact it' extremely difficult to get studios to actually do that for 1 movie.

I'm not sure but I think that Lord of the Rings is actually the first time that a studio payed for three full feature movies to be filmed in one go and then to be released over the course of 3 years. That's taking a very big risk. Not even Star Wars managed to get a studio to do that.

Anyhow, the end of the first Matrix movie does leave things open for a sequel, far more than SW. EP.IV. (death star destroyed, Darth Vader gone, the emperor wasn't known by the public yet)
IMHO, the Matrix ends with almost the explicit promise that there's more to come.

that's just my .02€
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Watch the japanese ones. In middle of the night.


Been there done that. :shaking:

I don't know. I think Amer version is much scarrier.

 
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Didn't the matrix cast sign on for three movies from the beginning?

Also there is no way to copy word for word what Tolkien wanted onto the screen.  He's incorporated the love story, because there was one... but it was added in the similliaron or in the end of some of RotK.  He wants to convey everything Tolkien conveyed... he also has the luxary of artistic license.
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Offline J.F.K.

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Depends; I don't know if the cast could have signed on for that kind of agreement... if Matrix 1 flopped, they wouldn't have gone and made the other Matrices. :)
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speaking of 'other movies' went to see 'dreamcatcher' the other night, personally just to see that animatrix short, but i found the movie itself to be quite good, the pace itself was great.. and is typical of stephen king's works...
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Isn't that the one where the people **** the giant worms? Pass.