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Good Idea?

Yes
9 (17.6%)
No
24 (47.1%)
Could be, properly moderated
12 (23.5%)
I don't give a hoot
6 (11.8%)

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Voting closed: April 30, 2003, 03:19:00 pm

Author Topic: Religion/Politics subforum or no?  (Read 5841 times)

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Offline J.F.K.

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Originally posted by Bobboau
the big ass Iraq thread was long and circular but if I wanted to discus something even remotly related to the subject I wouldn't have to make a new topic, it kept it all contained


The only issue I had with that was that because it was all in one thread, it was difficult to keep track of the several lines of conversation. It was pretty big.
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Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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Originally posted by Stryke 9
There's no such thing as an "anarchist flag". The anarchist flag is a gun. The anarchist flag is a tree. The anarchist flag is any piece of cloth you wanna put on a stick.


But the Anarcho-Syndicalist flag is red and black, split diagonally.

You are right, there can be no organizations of anarchists, as it is a contradiction, which is why, despite pressure, i will not join the Anarchist federation. I still behave quite violently and in a foul-mouthed manner at any protests that I attend, though.

 

Offline diamondgeezer

Religion/Politics subforum or no?
Stryke: killing politcal discussion at HLP wouldn't be a bad thing

 

Offline Stryke 9

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Petrarch: Well, that's not necessarily true. First off, that's rather a lot like saying proper Marxists shouldn't make any money. There's advocating the system, and living the system, and the latter, while preferable, isn't always possible in our current framework. Second, only the most hardcore anarchists (the really nutty ones, generally, who go out and form militias and ****) are actually against all forms of organization altogether. The vast majority of anarchists I've met, including the so-called "anarcho-syndicalists" (no proper revolutionary would ever use such a lame-ass overly technical name, and indeed damn few do outside of pretentious college students who talk the talk while working on their degree so they can earn six figures in two years), believe more in an automatic unity of man, and that systems and organization are acceptable provided they are not forced upon the people, and are composed exclusively of the people. Though not always in so many words.

 

Offline Su-tehp

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I vote NO. I remember UGC (United Gamers Coalition) tried to experiment with a religion debate forum on our website last year: it was an unmitigated disater. The way politics are nowadays, with liberals and conservatives at each others throats, the "debates" would inevitably devolve into shouting matches. Our religious debate forum lasted less than two weeks. It nearly tore UGC apart with all the arguments and hurt feelings it generated.

Trust me, it will become inevitable that some conservative poster here will mortally insult a liberal by either calling her a "traitor" for disagreeing with Bush's policies or will accuse him of "going to hell" for not following the Bible or somesuch. Once that happens, the flame wars will risk burning HLP to the ground, just like it almost did to UGC.

I have enough problems at home with the Bar exam and law school with arguments and debates; I have no desire to see the same thing here.

I come to HLP to chat with my buddies and my DatDB staff peeps so I can relax.
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Offline J.F.K.

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Originally posted by Su-tehp
I vote NO. I remember UGC (United Gamers Coalition) tried to experiment with a religion debate forum on our website last year: it was an unmitigated disater. The way politics are nowadays, with liberals and conservatives at each others throats, the "debates" would inevitably devolve into shouting matches. Our religious debate forum lasted less than two weeks. It nearly tore UGC apart with all the arguments and hurt feelings it generated.

Trust me, it will become inevitable that some conservative poster here will mortally insult a liberal by either calling her a "traitor" for disagreeing with Bush's policies or will accuse him of "going to hell" for not following the Bible or somesuch. Once that happens, the flame wars will risk burning HLP to the ground, just like it almost did to UGC.

I have enough problems at home with the Bar exam and law school with arguments and debates; I have no desire to see the same thing here.

I come to HLP to chat with my buddies and my DatDB staff peeps so I can relax.


I didn't even think of that... that's the benefit of experience, I guess. :yes:
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Offline Knight Templar

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Yeah, that's another thing to point out.

It's really easy to hold a grudge over someone that you don't even personally know over an arguement or insults in a debate forum, and it would eventually spill over into other forums/projects/relationships.
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