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Offline MasterJ

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The Shivans were beaten back and contact was reastablished with Sol. For the first time in years there was peace among our people. But we couldn't forget what the Shivans had done. And we knew that they were still out there...

The people grew restless and factions were formed. The GTVA knew that if they didn't do anything they would have a civil war on their hands. And so after much consideration by the council it was decided... The GTVA would start an invasion into Shivan space!


This is just the basic part of the story but I need some opinios about this storyline.

(And please...If you think it is the worst peace of crap ever. Please say so. Don't lie! Thanks!)

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Offline Pera

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Not the worst, but close  

Seriously, GTVA invading Shivans? Get real.

Though that idea about stopping a civil war by making a war against a distant enemy is pretty realistic...
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Offline delta_7890

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I agree.  The odds of the GTVA successfully invading Shivan space and living to tell about it are very slim.
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Offline mikhael

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Originally posted by Pera:
Not the worst, but close  

Seriously, GTVA invading Shivans? Get real.

Though that idea about stopping a civil war by making a war against a distant enemy is pretty realistic...

I wouldn't be quite so harsh as Pera. Its not that bad.

On the other hand, I have to agree with Pera about the GTVA invading Shivan space. First, its not too likely. Every time they've encountered the Shivans, they've learned just how weak and ineffectual they are. Further, Who knows where the Shivans really are? In FS2, the GTVA encountered them when going thru Knossos-01. Knossos is gone (anyone else get hit by the shockwave?   and the GTVA have no way to get back to the nebula.

I would go in a different direction. Again, Para is right: making war on a distant enemy is a good way to curb unrest at home. An even better way is via expansion. By making a push to colonize, the GTVA takes care of several problems: population growth, civil unrest, and their small size. The first two are obvious, but the last bears some further examination.

If I were GTVA brass or a politico, I'd worry that a proper invasion fleet of Shivan forces, backed by squadrons of Sathanas class star killers could come in and lay waste to all our major population and support centers. Expansion, as much and as fast as possible, can help with that.

Campaign-wise, you can almost go in a Battlestar Galactica direction with that. You can have a carrier and a few destroyers and a lot of transport ships on their way through system after system, looking for new homes and defending from shivan stragglers, new alien races, old HOL and NTF dissidents and perhaps spaceborn lifeforms. Eventually, your little fleet could run head long into the real Shivan front, and trigger off the real Second Great War.




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Actually, dude, if you read a post a while back on the VBB, they had one of the guys they were thinking about hiring. He talked to other writers who developed the FS storyline and they wanted to have the GTVA invade Shivan space if they made an FS3. I also got a strong feeling they were going to do this because at the end of FS2 they said that they were going to build their own knossos device using the data they gained from the first knossos device. Also, there was more than one knossos device if you played the whole game. There were a bunch of knossos devices around. That was how the shivans got to the capella sun. I'm not sure where the post is at this point in time but it was an interesting read.

 

Offline MasterJ

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Shivans were beaten back and contact was reastablished with Sol. For the first time in years there was peace among our people. But we couldn't forget what the Shivans had done. And we knew that they were still out there...

The people grew restless and factions were formed. The GTVA knew that if they didn't do anything they would have a civil war on their hands. And so after much consideration the council decided that territory must be gained to stabilize the situation inside Terran and Vasudan territory.

The GTD Moonsault and a few cruisers were refitted for exploration and colonization. But once they left trough a just discovered jump node all contact was lost. Even after many tries with probes and drones any attempt to communicate with the exploration vessels failed. Were they destroyed or were the radio waves blocked by the node...?

Now the GTVA had two choices. They could send in more vesses to search or they could leave them and not risk any more lives. They decided to send in another group of vessels in the hope they would find them...




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Offline mikhael

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Originally posted by WS-Thunder:
... talked to other writers who developed the FS storyline and they wanted to have the GTVA invade Shivan space if they made an FS3. ... Also, there was more than one knossos device if you played the whole game. There were a bunch of knossos devices around. That was how the shivans got to the capella sun...

To your first point, I did read that thread, and I still don't buy the reasoning. Invading Shivan space wouldn't be possible for a long while. The 'FS3' thread earlier listed all kinda of grand things--none of which seemed in character for the Shivans, nor for the FS universe as a whole.

To your second point, I have two refutations. First, there may have been more than one Knossos, but the second one was in the nebula on the other side of the first. That one isn't exactly accessible. Second, it would take more than a few months, or even a few years of study, I believe, to duplicate the Knossos. Even were the GTVA to build a Knossos portal, they would have to know where they wanted the other end to open up. In point of fact, there is no indication, so far as I know, that the GTVA ever discovered the origin of the Shivans or where they might live now.

Also, as a side note, it would be a shame to destroy the mystery of the Shivans yet. There's a lot more mystery-milking to be had by not going after them immediately.



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Offline diamondgeezer

No need to go to war. Fake it! OK, not so good for a FS mission plotline, but potentially beneficialy for the GTVA...

 
Actually I have taken the fact that the shivans seemed out of character. However, that is why I made a little more realalistic and more "in character" conclusion that will be revealed in Wraith Trilogy  

 

Offline MasterJ

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Originally posted by MasterJ:
Shivans were beaten back and contact was reastablished with Sol. For the first time in years there was peace among our people. But we couldn't forget what the Shivans had done. And we knew that they were still out there...

The people grew restless and factions were formed. The GTVA knew that if they didn't do anything they would have a civil war on their hands. And so after much consideration the council decided that territory must be gained to stabilize the situation inside Terran and Vasudan territory.

The GTD Moonsault and a few cruisers were refitted for exploration and colonization. But once they left trough a just discovered jump node all contact was lost. Even after many tries with probes and drones any attempt to communicate with the exploration vessels failed. Were they destroyed or were the radio waves blocked by the node...?

Now the GTVA had two choices. They could send in more vesses to search or they could leave them and not risk any more lives. They decided to send in another group of vessels in the hope they would find them...



Any opinions about this storyline?



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Offline aldo_14

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I don't think a full war is feasible, but a limited fringe war could be a viable idea, to form a 'buffer' between GTVA and Shivan space..... of course, the GTVA would underestimate Shivan strength....

 

Offline Anaz

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  wouldn't it be interesting if one time the GTVA did something and it WENT EXACTLY AS PLANNED!!!! OMG!!!!

sry, temporary insanity, but really that would be weird

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