[TopAce]

Any ideas(or pictures) how do the Ancients look like?
Or average height, or any data about their physical properties?

[karajorma]

AFAIK absolutely nothing is known about that.

[TopAce]

No god there isn't any projects working with the story of the Ancients.

Or it is classified level Zeta, too

[tEAbAG]

I think there's a ancient ship pack out there somewhere.

[Nuclear1]

Inferno. Ancients 2 Demo.

[Shiva-jin Buu]

I'd guess they were fluid life-forms from what i've experienced in the FS storyline.

[Knight Templar]

fluid life froms?

[CP5670]

There is nothing official known about the Ancients themselves but we do have a sample of their general ship design scheme from the Knossos.

[TopAce]

But I am curious about YOUR IDEAS, there are many unofficial things around here(hundreds of ships, unofficial programs like PCS, ModelView etc.) Why cannot you tell your imaginations?

I think they were not so advanced, because they couldn't discover life nor on Earth, nor on Vasuda. Eight thousand years before the Great War, there were already life on Sol, I think it is the time of Homo Erectus. They could have used the materials of our home to strenghten their economy, and indrusty. They could have made it only if they had colonized our world, and this is a reason for the Shivans to come and kill.

Same in the case of Vasuda, in addition, it is quite close to Altair 4.

or

1. They expanded their civ eastwards to Altair(unexplored for the GTVA)
2. Shivans left the life on Earth and Vasuda intact, so they could seek after another challenge several thousand years after.(This is probably the least possible.)
3. Ancients had just begun expanding when the Shivans attacked.

Write something like this about your ideas.

[Shiva-jin Buu]

I disagree. Somewhere in FS, or 2, they say that their empire was far greater than us. And they had the Knossos technology!

And couldn't it have been that the Ancients were the "all-powerful race" in the HoL vasudan legends, or derived of them?

[Black Wolf]

Originally posted by TopAce
But I am curious about YOUR IDEAS, there are many unofficial things around here(hundreds of ships, unofficial programs like PCS, ModelView etc.) Why cannot you tell your imaginations?

I think they were not so advanced, because they couldn't discover life nor on Earth, nor on Vasuda. Eight thousand years before the Great War, there were already life on Sol, I think it is the time of Homo Erectus. They could have used the materials of our home to strenghten their economy, and indrusty. They could have made it only if they had colonized our world, and this is a reason for the Shivans to come and kill.

Same in the case of Vasuda, in addition, it is quite close to Altair 4.

or

1. They expanded their civ eastwards to Altair(unexplored for the GTVA)
2. Shivans left the life on Earth and Vasuda intact, so they could seek after another challenge several thousand years after.(This is probably the least possible.)
3. Ancients had just begun expanding when the Shivans attacked.

Write something like this about your ideas.

We know (or at least suspect) that the Ancients screwed around with the  Vasudans, accelerating the evolution or something, allowing them to  survive their harsh environment (though I'll admit that I can't ecall if this is canon or not) Note however, that the Ancients hadn't been in subspace very long when the Shivans attacked (The Ancients monologues in FS1 seem to make that clear) so not finding Earth, which is a fair way off the Ancients space, seems reasonable.

Also, 8000 years ago from was around about 6000BC - later if you take it from FS1s 2335 - now I'm no Anthropologist, but that Homo Erectus died out around 400 000 BC - hell, Catal Huyuk was established over 9000 years ago - we were well past Homo erectus then.

[TopAce]

Originally posted by Black Wolf

Also, 8000 years ago from was around about 6000BC - later if you take it from FS1s 2335 - now I'm no Anthropologist, but that Homo Erectus died out around 400 000 BC - hell, Catal Huyuk was established over 9000 years ago - we were well past Homo erectus then.

Thanks for the history lesson, I am getting more intelligent every day.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

6000BC. Well wasn't Ancient Egypt just starting up?

[TopAce]

Originally posted by Shiva-jin Buu
....And they had the Knossos technology!

At Gamma Draconis, which means they could travel enough far to discover at least Vasuda. Let's suppose they had no knowledge about the existance of Sol.

If you have a look at the FS2 Database/Intelligence/Ancients you can read there were additional findings in some systems close to Vasuda(for example Deneb)

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Maybe they did find Earth and Vasuda, and the life on them, but decided to leave well alone. They might have had some sort of Prime Directive, like the Federation.

[TopAce]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
6000BC. Well wasn't Ancient Egypt just starting up?

Egypt began its rise sometime between 5000BC and 3000BC(As I know)

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Ahh, well there you are.

But there would have been pre-Egyptian civilisations, then.

[TopAce]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Ahh, well there you are.

But there would have been pre-Egyptian civilisations, then.

Vasudans. They live in the desert too.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Indeed.

Anyone know when Vasudan civilisation started? I believe it to much older that Earth.

[TopAce]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Indeed.

Anyone know when Vasudan civilisation started? I believe it to much older that Earth.

Their ships were 'less modern' than Terran as we saw in FS1. The PVF Anubis is the best fighter ever! No afterburner, has two lasers, it is a wonder that ship didn't fall apart while doing a maneuver. Or the first four missions have had to be easy.

As I estimate, the Vasudans develop slowerly than the Terrans, and this can be a reason why is 'an older cvilization' less modern than a 'younger civilization'

But I know this is of the reason to make the first some missions easy.