[Vertigo1]

Well, I went out and got me an mp3 player!    Turns out that Best Buy got in some more Sony players and I found one with a      80 hour battery life, with a remote control...and it came with the car kit!  All for $79.95! (Walkman D-NE51CK)  It also came with software where I could rip songs and encode them either as mp3s, "Atrac", "Atrac2", or "Atrac3". (whatever the hell those last three are.   )  I was going to nab the Panasonic player when I happened to see this thing.  The only drawback is that it came with some really ****ty quality headphones, but thats no big deal since I'll use my Koss earbuds anyhow.

linky

[neo_hermes]

nice. can i have it?

[Vertigo1]

Originally posted by neo_hermes
nice. can i have it?

When you get through these with nothing but an apollo and ML-16's.  No shields and no support of any kind.



(yeah, I know its a ****ty render, but its really old so its excusable. )

Thats about a thousand Sathani in one scene.

[Vertigo1]

Helps if I click edit instead of quote....

[Stryke 9]

What're they gonna do, flak you to death?

[Admiral LSD]

Originally posted by Vertigo1
"Atrac", "Atrac2", or "Atrac3". (whatever the hell those last three are.   )

ATRAC (Adaptive Transform Acoustic Coding) is a compression system Sony developed over a decade ago (if not earlier) for it's MiniDiscs. It's more efficient than MP3 as it can store at least 60 minutes of audio at fairly decent quality on a 120Mb (thereabouts) disc. In recent times though, it's become part of Sony's DRM push with many of it's player only supporting the format and requiring everything being loaded onto them (including MP3s) to be transcoded into ATRAC.

[01010]

Originally posted by Admiral LSD


ATRAC (Adaptive Transform Acoustic Coding) is a compression system Sony developed over a decade ago (if not earlier) for it's MiniDiscs. It's more efficient than MP3 as it can store at least 60 minutes of audio at fairly decent quality on a 120Mb (thereabouts) disc. In recent times though, it's become part of Sony's DRM push with many of it's player only supporting the format and requiring everything being loaded onto them (including MP3s) to be transcoded into ATRAC.

I have a Sony minidisc player that you can copy MP3's from the hard drive to it. What really pisses me off about it is that I can only copy a file a maximum of three times, even though every single mp3 I have on minidisc is a legitimate CD rip. I don't like DRM because it violates the terms of fair usage in my opinion.

[TrashMan]

Originally posted by Vertigo1


When you get through these with nothing but an apollo and ML-16's.  No shields and no support of any kind.



(yeah, I know its a ****ty render, but its really old so its excusable. )

Thats about a thousand Sathani in one scene.

*edits ships.tbl......sets sath's hull to 10.....*
* edits weapons.tbl.....sets ML-16 damageto 20, energy drain to 0.0001, sets flak damage to 0.000000000000001*
*wipes out the Sath fleet!*

[J.F.K.]

Originally posted by 01010
What really pisses me off about it is that I can only copy a file a maximum of three times, even though every single mp3 I have on minidisc is a legitimate CD rip. I don't like DRM because it violates the terms of fair usage in my opinion.

Yeah, that is pretty poor. My friends complain about that constantly.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Vertigo1
Well, I went out and got me an mp3 player!    Turns out that Best Buy got in some more Sony players and I found one with a      80 hour battery life, with a remote control...and it came with the car kit!  All for $79.95! (Walkman D-NE51CK)  It also came with software where I could rip songs and encode them either as mp3s, "Atrac", "Atrac2", or "Atrac3". (whatever the hell those last three are.   )  I was going to nab the Panasonic player when I happened to see this thing.  The only drawback is that it came with some really ****ty quality headphones, but thats no big deal since I'll use my Koss earbuds anyhow.

linky

The price is right ( ), but the design is crap. Compare:





My $150 iRiver SlimX, ~23 hours batt life, dimension approx. 135(W) X 145(L) X 6.7(H)mm (), weight approx. 189g ( Excluding Batteries).

Originally posted by Admiral LSD
It's more efficient than MP3 as it can store at least 60 minutes of audio at fairly decent quality on a 120Mb (thereabouts) disc.

What're you on?? MP3 @ 128kbps is a meg a minute. 60 minutes = 60 megs, 120 megs = 2 hours. Granted, it's not the same quality as MiniDisc audio, but if you double the bitrate so that 2mb = 1 minute, you'll get the same quality as minidisc in the same size.

[Nico]

"what're you on?"
heh, check his nick, and you'll know

[J.F.K.]

Originally posted by Venom
"what're you on?"
heh, check his nick, and you'll know

Heheh, Venom gotcha there Sandwich

True though, are you getting your figures confused or something? If you're taking audio quality into account and you're a real audiophile, Ogg Vorbis offers superior audio quality for even smaller sizes (not significantly, though) than MP3 - at the cost of far lesser compatibility.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by J.F.K.


Heheh, Venom gotcha there Sandwich

True though, are you getting your figures confused or something? If you're taking audio quality into account and you're a real audiophile, Ogg Vorbis offers superior audio quality for even smaller sizes (not significantly, though) than MP3 - at the cost of far lesser compatibility.

Yeah, I know it does, I just never really heard any vorbis songs to compare. But the SlimX is firmware upgradeable, which means that if Vorbis really takes off in the furute, the company can add in supprt for it with no problems.


Also, did I mention that I have snakebyte on my SlimX?

[01010]

Originally posted by J.F.K.


Yeah, that is pretty poor. My friends complain about that constantly.

It's easy enough to get around, just a quick uninstall then reinstall, but I wish they'd implemented some sort of CD check to verify the mp3 came from a genuinely owned CD. Still a fantastic piece of kit though and that's the only flaw I've found with it.