[Stryke 9]

Originally posted by silverwolf
i have no prob with homosexuals exept when one stands at the screen door and plays with their wank at you.

Happens all the time, does it?

[Stealth]

Originally posted by Shrike
inflicts no damage worse than a bruise, and that's if you're not careful.

i dunno man, some of the website banners i've seen for bdsm sites the stuff they're doing looks pretty damn painful... quite a lot more than just a bruise.  i guess there's degrees of that sort of stuff... then again, i've never been into that or any pr0n site

[an0n]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
Happens all the time, does it?

He asks his boyfriend to stop, but it just seems to excite him more.

[an0n]

Originally posted by Stealth
i dunno man, some of the website banners i've seen for bdsm sites the stuff they're doing looks pretty damn painful... quite a lot more than just a bruise.  i guess there's degrees of that sort of stuff... then again, i've never been into that or any pr0n site

Firstly, unless it involves kids, horses or transexuals, all pr0n is good pr0n and as such is extreme fun to do in real life.

Secondly, you just get more and more pathetic with each post. Any self-respecting man should have towering piles of pr0n mags, hard-drives full of filth and a girlfriend to be disgusted by it all.

Thirdly, *SMACK*.

[silverwolf]

stryke9:nah just at my old house form a couple years back
an0n:go jack off

[J.F.K.]

Originally posted by Shrike
Who cares what people do in the bedroom so long as they're not hurting anyone doing it?

Well, I'm of the opinion that sex was only designed to be done one way... I guess that's old-fashioned now.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by silverwolf

an0n:go jack off

Thats perfectly normal

[Top Gun]

The thing that always puzzles me in the sex department is that why do so many non-religious people still have respect for the practice of ceremonial marriage? Those who have taken an objective and critical look at the superstitious element of monothesium (I'm assuming there is nobody from any other religion here) and come to the conclusion that it's bunk should then instantly reject all the morals, ethics and rules it forces upon its believers. It is justified to say that for the atheist, marriage and 'the family unit' should take its place amongst stonings, sacrificial offerings (human, animal or vegetable), and genital mutilation.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Top Gun
The thing that always puzzles me in the sex department is that why do so many non-religious people still have respect for the practice of ceremonial marriage? Those who have taken an objective and critical look at the superstitious element of monothesium (I'm assuming there is nobody from any other religion here) and come to the conclusion that it's bunk should then instantly reject all the morals, ethics and rules it forces upon its believers. It is justified to say that for the atheist, marriage and 'the family unit' should take its place amongst stonings, sacrificial offerings (human, animal or vegetable), and genital mutilation.

Eh, what?

I am a non-believer, but that doesn't mean I don't have morals or reject all morals a believer would have. Marriage is for me not a declaration of love to under the watching eye of God, but a declaration of love to my partner and myself.

People really need to stop this. I respect your values and beliefs. Now, I believe in myself instead of God. That doesn't mean I'm lower or higher then you. Or that I should reject all your morals.

Generelazation is a *****.

[Kamikaze]

I would assume it shows that many atheists aren't so deeply analytical or thoughtful in their beliefs to go so far as to throw rather rooted tradition out the window. (not necessarily a bad thing, not something you need to care about)

Personally I think it's silly for me to have to garauntee any sort of "I'll do this and that" for some religious community and declare my absolute allegiance to a partner in religious ceremony. If I'm to get married, I'll try to stay away from one of those.

[Stryke 9]

TG: This topic has been done a thousand times before, beaten to death and back enough times that it hardly even makes a difference, ****ed sideways, and sent to the Moon. It's tired and old, and it's been done to death on this forum, too.

Ruling out the concept of god does not equal ruling out the fact that we need a social construct with limitations, and in fact personal guidelines and restrictions, in order to remain sane, healthy, and alive. It has absolutely nothing to do with God- morals and law never did. Religion coopted them, not the other way around.

In fact, it's been said before that atheists are the only truly moral people around- the fact that all y'all have that big fat ol' carrot of an eternity in Heaven if you're good dangling in front of your noses pretty much negates altruism, since it's all in self-interest in the end- you do it because it gets you in God's nice list (or at least not on the naughty list), not because it's good for anyone else. However, an atheist doesn't have that, and not all moral restrictions have to do with self-preservation- hence, it basically comes down to atheists, and atheists alone, being capable of being good for the sake of good.


Ahh, being smug. It's so rewarding.

[Kamikaze]

But marriage rituals aren't a socially necessarily concept are they? Sure you'll need rules and laws to keep people bound , but I'm sure few actually treats that ritual as their social ultimatum. (as can be seen by divorce rates)

[01010]

Originally posted by Stealth


i dunno man, some of the website banners i've seen for bdsm sites the stuff they're doing looks pretty damn painful... quite a lot more than just a bruise.  i guess there's degrees of that sort of stuff... then again, i've never been into that or any pr0n site

Hee hee, i'm sure they were just banners

[Shrike]

Originally posted by an0n
Secondly, you just get more and more pathetic with each post. Any self-respecting man should have towering piles of pr0n mags, hard-drives full of filth and a girlfriend to be disgusted by it all.

I prefer my women in the flesh, got a problem with that?

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Top Gun
The thing that always puzzles me in the sex department is that why do so many non-religious people still have respect for the practice of ceremonial marriage? Those who have taken an objective and critical look at the superstitious element of monothesium (I'm assuming there is nobody from any other religion here) and come to the conclusion that it's bunk should then instantly reject all the morals, ethics and rules it forces upon its believers. It is justified to say that for the atheist, marriage and 'the family unit' should take its place amongst stonings, sacrificial offerings (human, animal or vegetable), and genital mutilation.

Cause marriage is not just a religious thing. Plenty of animals mate for life. There are lots evolutionary benifits to it. The time and effort that is wasted on courtship can instead be spent on having sex and raising young.

Secondly once you've formed any kind of long term bond with your partner you'll soon find that it isn't legally recognised. This is perfectly understandable.
 If you meet a woman and move in with her within a week when do you think she should have the right to make medical desicions about you should you be incapacitated?
 Marriage gives both partners certain rights that otherwise remain with the next of kin. It also makes things easier should the couple decide to split. Divorce may be messy but it's far easier than trying to solve the same problems without having been married.
 Also once the state recognises you as a couple you're entitled to all kinds of tax breaks.

There you go. Tonnes of logical reasons.

Unfortunately I'm not that logical I'd want to marry my girlfriend more cause I love her and want to show that.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by an0n
Secondly, you just get more and more pathetic with each post. Any self-respecting man should have towering piles of pr0n mags, hard-drives full of filth

[Nico]

Originally posted by Kamikaze
But marriage rituals aren't a socially necessarily concept are they? Sure you'll need rules and laws to keep people bound , but I'm sure few actually treats that ritual as their social ultimatum. (as can be seen by divorce rates)

heh? yes they do, you have less taxes and stuff like that. marriage is financially interesting, you know.

[Top Gun]

Originally posted by karajorma


Cause marriage is not just a religious thing. Plenty of animals mate for life. There are lots evolutionary benifits to it. The time and effort that is wasted on courtship can instead be spent on having sex and raising young.

Secondly once you've formed any kind of long term bond with your partner you'll soon find that it isn't legally recognised. This is perfectly understandable.
 If you meet a woman and move in with her within a week when do you think she should have the right to make medical desicions about you should you be incapacitated?
 Marriage gives both partners certain rights that otherwise remain with the next of kin. It also makes things easier should the couple decide to split. Divorce may be messy but it's far easier than trying to solve the same problems without having been married.
 Also once the state recognises you as a couple you're entitled to all kinds of tax breaks.

There you go. Tonnes of logical reasons.

Unfortunately I'm not that logical I'd want to marry my girlfriend more cause I love her and want to show that.

I Understand the concept of Human Nature but it is still not a strong argument, there are lots of things the human race has done that definitely defy its darwinistic purpose (to make more humans). It's not in our nature to read and write books, do maths, go to the moon etc. but it's generally accepted that life is better with these things, so the analogous argument goes from here.

Yes, most countries legally recognise a bond between two people after a certain perioud of time together which further emphasizes my point on the need for any ceremonial marriage.

State tax breaks may be an incentive for an individual couople to marry but it passes the buck to the state in the question of 'why?' and the answer, for America certainly, is religion.

Stryke: It's not as if every point on this thread hasn't been gone over many times so I see nothing unique about mine. I am aware that most religions had adopted those social codes and not created them but they were, and still are, responsible for perpetuating them long after the need for them has gone.

[Nico]

that's your opinion, which is not shared by atheists. go wonder.
oh, another good reason is the whole "white dress and ****" that the girls are so fond of, too.

[Rictor]

BOOBIES!!!!