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Offline Zeronet

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I have no opinion, which is a good opinion, avoids me wasting time explaining to idiots(ie the next reply after this one) what my opinion is, as some people(ie the next reply after this one) are too inbred to understand.
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so what you're really saying is that you want heterosexual sexual acts being played out in the streets?
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:rolleyes: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping:
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I Understand the concept of Human Nature but it is still not a strong argument, there are lots of things the human race has done that definitely defy its darwinistic purpose (to make more humans). It's not in our nature to read and write books, do maths, go to the moon etc. but it's generally accepted that life is better with these things, so the analogous argument goes from here.


I wasn't saying that evolution means we should get married. I'm saying that it is for evolutionary reasons that humans did get married. As Stryke 9 said religion took something that was already there and made it it's own. Marriage was there a long time before religion came religion came along and took it over. Humans are evolved to get married (and cheat a bit too but that's another matter).

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Yes, most countries legally recognise a bond between two people after a certain perioud of time together which further emphasizes my point on the need for any ceremonial marriage


So basically you're saying there is no need to get married cause the state does it for you automatically. Hardly an arguement against marriage is it?

Even there are a large number of things you appear to have missed.

1)  So where do you draw the line? At what point should a couple who live together automatically be considered a couple by the state? Remember no one gets married cause we're all aethists in this arguement so when should the state decide that my girlfriend has more right than my family to pull the plug on my life support machine? After a year? Two years? 7?

2) What happens if at the time the state decides I'm married I don't feel ready? What if I felt ready for 3 years? Should I have had to wait?

3) Common law is much weaker than Marital law. If you adjust it's power upwards then again you're just forcing marriage on every couple regardless of if they want it or not.  

4) How does the state decide how long a couple has been together? What if they broke up for a week? A month? A Year? Do they have to have been living together that whole time? What about people in the armed forces or other jobs which take them away from home for long periods of time?

3) So why not get a Power of Attorney drawn up I hear you say? Well if I get one drawn up for everything that could become important in my life I might as well get married. Marriage automatically includes one. If every good aetheist couple has to at some point decide to get one you're simply swapping one marriage ritual for another. At some point a couple would have to say "I trust you enough to sign over my rights to you if I'm incapacitated. Let's get attorneyed!"
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:rolleyes: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping: :hopping:


you do. if not, you'd say that all peoples sex life should be handled by them privately, instead of just limiting it to homosexuals.
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I see you have a problem, in that you are attempting to glean opinions from a smilie.

All im going to say is, what i don't see/hear/know about, cannot disgust me. I have no problem with them as people, i have no problems with lesbians or what they do. Though i am annoyed that people still find my opinions at fault, i cannot help it if i find the idea of what gay men do disgusting, so if you think that means im a intolerant person, or im treating it as a disease, i don't give a damn.
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So for you sex is just dick in pussy and nothing else, right? Do you find the idea of having anal sex with a woman equally disgusting and if so why didn't you say that instead of just picking on homosexuals?
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All im going to say is, what i don't see/hear/know about, cannot disgust me. I have no problem with them as people, i have no problems with lesbians or what they do. Though i am annoyed that people still find my opinions at fault, i cannot help it if i find the idea of what gay men do disgusting, so if you think that means im a intolerant person, or im treating it as a disease, i don't give a damn.

This opinion is quite common actually. Its almost the same as what I have for an opinion when it concerns beliefs.

I don't care wether you're a Jew, Christian, Muslim or anything as long as you don't bother me with your beliefs. With that I mean bothering as in Jehova, trying to oppress your religious beliefs on me etc. Its not like I don't want these people as my friends. I have lotsa friends with different beliefs :)

Ow, man... Lets not continue on this path :p else we'll have another religion thread ;)
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Ow, man... Lets not continue on this path :p else we'll have another religion thread ;)


You can never mention one without someone mentioning the other.
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So basically you're saying there is no need to get married cause the state does it for you automatically. Hardly an arguement against marriage is it?

Yes, I think it is. It makes the ceremonial part of it utterly pointless and there is no religious connections to it.

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1)  So where do you draw the line? At what point should a couple who live together automatically be considered a couple by the state? Remember no one gets married cause we're all aethists in this arguement so when should the state decide that my girlfriend has more right than my family to pull the plug on my life support machine? After a year? Two years? 7?

Go and look at legislation in a your respective country for a good idea of 'where the line is considered drawn'. You appeal to emotion in the second part of that point. One could turn that argument around on itself and present in in the form 'My wife, who I married in a hurry and known for only a month has more right than my family to pull the plug on my life support machine.'

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2) What happens if at the time the state decides I'm married I don't feel ready? What if I felt ready for 3 years? Should I have had to wait?

Again, read the legislation in your respective country. The law, in most countries, entitles one partner to a share of the others property should they split up if they have been living together after a certain period. I don't see what you are hypothetically wishing to happen though in the last rhetorical question; ready for what? to be able to break off the relationship and take the share you would have been entitled to had you been married traditionally or to have a third party aknowledge the authenticity of you relationship?.

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So why not get a Power of Attorney drawn up I hear you say? Well if I get one drawn up for everything that could become important in my life I might as well get married. Marriage automatically includes one. If every good aetheist couple has to at some point decide to get one you're simply swapping one marriage ritual for another. At some point a couple would have to say "I trust you enough to sign over my rights to you if I'm incapacitated. Let's get attorneyed!"

Yes (and should it just be a couple?) as it completely removes any essence of religion from the whole business.



Then there's the case against the familly unit that a married couple is more likely to produce which hasn't even been mentioned.

 

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TG, you keep reffering to religion, but I don't give a damn about religion. I know it might be hard for you to see that people don't share your beliefs, but when I marry I will not think of God. I will not read from the bible. All I will do is enjoy the moment and see it as the one moment where me and my partner make a statement of love.
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Yes (and should it just be a couple?) as it completely removes any essence of religion from the whole business.


So in other words you just want to rename marriage for aetheists rather than actually being against aetheists having some sort of formal commitment? :D

Unlike you I am capable of understanding that there isn't any need to throw the baby out with the bath water. I can get married quite happily without it having any religious connection whatsoever.

Your arguement is similar to that of the feminists who wanted to stop the use of the word history because of the nasty masculine meaning of the original word. In other words it's mad PC crap from someone incapable of seperating a word from its meaning.
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Tiara: Good for you :D you have failed to explain the reason why you choose marriage as a way of making a gesture of love as opposed to say; standing on a soapbox with a megaphone reciting love poetry to him/her or tattooing each others names some place etc.etc. etc. etc.
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Good for you :D you have failed to explain the reason why you choose marriage as a way of making a gesture of love as opposed to say; standing on a soapbox with a megaphone reciting love poetry to her or tattooing each others names some place etc.etc. etc. etc.

Hmmm... I might :D I really don't care what we do. Also we will not have a traditional wedding but a maleysian one. :D

Also, reason: I wuv him. Thats reason enough for me :)
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Go and look at legislation in a your respective country for a good idea of 'where the line is considered drawn'. You appeal to emotion in the second part of that point. One could turn that argument around on itself and present in in the form 'My wife, who I married in a hurry and known for only a month has more right than my family to pull the plug on my life support machine.'


If you're fool enough to marry someone you don't trust after a month then you deserve the concequences. I don't see why the rest of us should have to suffer because some people are stupid enough to do that. Besides in that case you could get a power of Attorney to cancel your new wife's ability to do that.
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Hey, can anyone tell me where marriage originally came from? I used to just think everyone did it, but it's such a convention nowadays... what's the Hindu take on marriage, for example? Anyone an expert?
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:wtf: how the **** could i have missed this thread?


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:wtf: how the **** could i have missed this thread?


:lol: You should actually open your eyes once in a while.
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:lol: You should actually open your eyes once in a while.



I do sleep much these days:D
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Ah, sleep. I remember that. It was nice. Restful.

Ah, well, back to the diamon....err...'coal' mines.
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