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What tactical weapons do you use?

Akhenton SDG
8 (19%)
Morning Star
12 (28.6%)
Lamprey
0 (0%)
Circe
6 (14.3%)
I use tactical weapons when they are default
4 (9.5%)
I never use tactical weapons
12 (28.6%)

Total Members Voted: 42

Voting closed: June 22, 2003, 09:21:04 am

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Offline Woolie Wool

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IIRC = if I recall
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Offline Flaser

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I join you on that one, although I have a rough guess.
Anyway what the hack is IIRC?
IMHO and BTW are at least close to the spoken languange, but IIRC? I could grasp them with little ETA, but I don't seem to catch IIRC ASAP.
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Offline Woolie Wool

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Uhhhh....

No comment...:wtf:
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16:47   Quanto   D:

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Offline TopAce

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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
IIRC the Circe has MUCH greater range than the Kayser.


But compare their power. It is sure the Circe is good against shields, but with Kaysers we can kill.
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Offline Flaser

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ungh...I see, well you manage to learn smg. new every once in a while.
BTW IIRC the maxim had a way longer range than the Kayser, so a Circe-Maxim combo owns...on the other hand a Maxim-Kayser combo is the ultimate bomber/fighter killer.
I checked the weapons.tbl
The Maxim has the longest range and greates speed in terms of projectile velocity, so it's the best bomb-catcher and is good against the bomber's hull, the Morning Star has a slightly lower range and half the speed. They have the same ROF. The maxim eats more energy.
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Offline Knight Templar

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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
IIRC the Circe has MUCH greater range than the Kayser.


it couldn't be by that much. Besides, I fly with a game pad, so I can't hit anything further than 600m anyway.

and flaser. ':rolleyes: '
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Offline TopAce

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Originally posted by Knight Templar


..., I fly with a game pad, so I can't hit anything further than 600m anyway.


Why aren't you changing to keyboard or buy a joy?
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Offline TopAce

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Originally posted by Flaser
.... They have the same ROF. The maxim eats more energy.


Evident, the Maxim is far stronger in any field(except shield damage?).

Who can aim well with the Maxim? It's 'shaking' effect' disturbs me very much, this is a reason I edited its TBL info, and erased the 'esuck' flag. It became immediatly usefull.
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Offline Flaser

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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
Uhhhh....

No comment...:wtf:


IIRC :p not everyone is from an English/American:rolleyes: speaking country.
BTW there is no such thing as UCGAI :ick  (Ultimate Compulsory Guide to Abbreviations on the Internet).
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Offline Knight Templar

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Keyboard = teh Ghey.

Joy = i actually ordered one off Half.com for 9 bucks a week ago, s it should be here tommarow or the day after. w00t.

Flaser: you seemed to know about the other abbreviations. And there are quite a few abbreviation guides out there, just look around.
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Offline TopAce

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Originally posted by Flaser


IIRC :p not everyone is from an English/American:rolleyes: speaking country.
....


Yeah, true! Give up speaking 'advanced' English!:thepimp:
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Offline Flaser

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Originally posted by TopAce


Evident, the Maxim is far stronger in any field(except shield damage?).

Who can aim well with the Maxim? It's 'shaking' effect' disturbs me very much, this is a reason I edited its TBL info, and erased the 'esuck' flag. It became immediatly usefull.


It does not actually make your aim wander off target it merrly sakes the cockpit, so it's only disturbing, but not realistic at all.
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Offline Flaser

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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Keyboard = teh Ghey.

Joy = i actually ordered one off Half.com for 9 bucks a week ago, s it should be here tommarow or the day after. w00t.

Flaser: you seemed to know about the other abbreviations. And there are quite a few abbreviation guides out there, just look around.


KT I knew quite a few, but they are popping up everywhere like lemmings during the season, and each every community seems to have their own ones.
BTW I know there are quite a few guides, but for reasons mentioned above, they are never all powerful ect.
As for advanced English, TopAce I have to disagree.
Abbrevs are there fore a reason, and IIRC most of them are cornerpoints of a text, though they shouldn't be overused.
As for "aeadvancead" "Einglish" I agree that things shouldn't be made different just for the sake of coolness or making things sound more techno-jumbo that some people seem to be in love with.

PS: Anyone interested in writting a true UCGAI?
Hmm...I wonder how that one would fit in like: UCGAI-ing I L|k to... no, no... what about a noun:then I found the UCGAI for that term....err...no...

...
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Offline Woolie Wool

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FYI, we should all STFU about abbreviations and get back OT.
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Offline Knight Templar

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Are you trying to be extremely Ironic, or does it just come out that way?
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Offline TopAce

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Originally posted by Flaser


....As for advanced English, TopAce I have to disagree....


És ha elkezdenek hipertájszólással írni? 'Pistabá, nemlássa, hogy ilfogyott a sír? Amúgy is íleg rízeg vaty!'

Sorry, this is off-topic. Ignore me, only for Flaser and perhaps Grunt if he will have a look at in. It's about my point of advanced English. I am guarding those who have pretty few chance to understand so 'special' expressions and shortenings.
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Offline Woolie Wool

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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Are you trying to be extremely Ironic, or does it just come out that way?


I was trying to extract the last bit of humor from a dead joke.
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Offline Knight Templar

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I meant both of you. :blah:
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Originally posted by TopAce


Evident, the Maxim is far stronger in any field(except shield damage?).

Who can aim well with the Maxim? It's 'shaking' effect' disturbs me very much, this is a reason I edited its TBL info, and erased the 'esuck' flag. It became immediatly usefull.


Yeah, as Flaser said, it's just the HUD shaking.  Once I get used to it, I find I aim just as effectively as before.  I like the Maxim in certain situations.  If I have a mission with lots of cruisers or spaced out bomber attacks, I'll make sure to equip the Maxim if possible.  I can knock out bombs from two klicks fairly easily, even WITH the shaking.

My thought on tactical weapons is that they're pretty much useless.  The MS IS handy when I suspect Dragons, but other than that...  If I'm bored and the mission is tough, and this particular combo is allowed, I just use an Ares or Erinyes with both banks populated by Kaysers.  Yeah, the energy drain is extremely high, but it's managable when you fire in carefully aimed bursts and remember to tweak the energy allocations.

My two cents.

 

Offline Flaser

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Though the Kayser's so powerful that sometimes I believe it's a cheat, and I believe it's use should be reduced in most campaigns or a new series of ships should be used - this actually puts the tone on agility and speed rather than sheer protection.

BTW TopAce: Nem azt mondtam, hogy mindenki úgy ferdítse a nyelvet ahogy akarja, hanem azt, hogy egyes rövidítések elterjedtek és jól használhatók, de nem a nyelv rovására. Az utóbbit én is ellenzem.

To Everyone Else: I just commented that I agree with the use of some abbrevs, but not to transform English.

Enough of this back to the topic!

What bugs me about FS-Open is how it changes the ships ability to mount all kinds of weapons.

On the other hand it has a principle that could be converted into something cool:
A critical slot/energy drain system where you have the chance to put all kinds of very powerfull weapons onto your craft, but you'll have to deal with a range of disadvantages for each one - say high drain/low ROF/Heat*.
You would have certain number of slots and each weapon would occupy a certain number of slots.
The whole system could be similar to ones used in Mech Warrior.
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