Author Topic: Arizona forest fires.. (Read 4038 times)

Turnsky · **on:** June 23, 2003, 03:16:44 am

i've just been watching them on the news, looks really nasty..

i wonder how bad it'll get before the australian firefighters offer an assist...

bushfires are more or less a seasonal thing in australia, which, more often than not, are started by some arsehole who happens to like to watch things burn..

Stryke 9 · **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2003, 03:28:07 am

They're fairly common out in the Midwest, too. Hell, was it last year that moron started a forest fire burning a Dear John letter?

Turnsky · **Reply #2 on:** June 23, 2003, 03:29:05 am

possibly

Stryke 9 · **Reply #3 on:** June 23, 2003, 03:30:37 am

That was more directed at other Americans, who might know this stuff.

Bobboau · **Reply #4 on:** June 23, 2003, 03:30:55 am

yes I beleve it was actualy a ranger who did that in Montana.

there sort of seasonal thing here too, in some parts of the contry, Montana, most of the desert states, Florada, parts of Calafornia, half the contry is burning at any given moment

J.F.K. · **Reply #5 on:** June 23, 2003, 04:21:13 am

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Originally posted by Turnsky
bushfires are more or less a seasonal thing in australia, which, more often than not, are started by some arsehole who happens to like to watch things burn..

It's true... we don't have many natural disasters in Australia like earthquakes, tornadoes and the like, so some noble idiots have taken it upon themselves to make trouble for us.

Bobboau · **Reply #6 on:** June 23, 2003, 05:02:36 am

haven't the seasonal fires been a staple of the austrailian climate for hundreds of thousands of years?

Turnsky · **Reply #7 on:** June 23, 2003, 05:22:48 am

Yeah, but these days, it's mostly human stupidity that starts the massive bushfires, not nature(lightning for example)

Bobboau · **Reply #8 on:** June 23, 2003, 05:35:34 am

well, point being, if some idiot didn't do it wouldn't it still happen anyway?

J.F.K. · **Reply #9 on:** June 23, 2003, 07:10:12 am

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Originally posted by Bobboau
haven't the seasonal fires been a staple of the austrailian climate for hundreds of thousands of years?

Yes and no. Yes, fires happened, and they happened seasonally. But they weren't really natural. The Aborigines went around torching the place so that it would regrow anew by the time they came back (they were semi-nomadic), and they did it for so long that particular types of trees developed reliance on the fires for reproduction (their seed pods only open in fire). But the fires devastated the landscape, it wasn't sustainable - it was just killing the environment far slower than what we're doing. For example, all the giant kangaroos (ie. 3m and taller) are long extinct.

Anyway, it's the intense topic of historical revisionism right now... whether the Aborigines were goodies or baddies.

Bobboau · **Reply #10 on:** June 23, 2003, 10:08:43 am

if it's been going on for so long that trees have developed not only a tolorence to it but in fact a relience, I would say that sounds sustainable, and posably part of a cycle that predates the Aborigines. though admitedly I'm probly not as well informed on the subject as you are (being that you live there and all

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[edit]you do live there right? hopeing I remembered that right[/edit]

diamondgeezer · **Reply #11 on:** June 23, 2003, 10:51:25 am

This is almost as annoying as Texans crying their eyes out cos their trailer got flattened by a tornado. Almost, but not quite.

*remembers back to natural disasters module of A-Level geography*

Hokay, IIRC, forest fires are much like floods. Both rejuvinate the ground and make it more fertile, and both make life difficult for us humies. Thus we try and prevent them, and just end up getting hit by worse ones because they build up until we can't contain them. Solution - don't live in a natural disastser area.

silverwolf · **Reply #12 on:** June 23, 2003, 10:54:43 am

yah in 2000 here in montana a town got burnt down because some idiots set the montain ablaze and in my town it was basicly where one of those surgical masks or stay inside. hell couldn't see 3 feet in front of you. I belive they were found and trialed for arson.Can't remember how much but it was a big fine with jail time.

i think we even made it on the national news for that one night

Knight Templar · **Reply #13 on:** June 23, 2003, 01:28:13 pm

*didn't know Arizona had forrests*

Sucks, **** happens. There's probably some fire going on in Orange county somewhere right now. Usually is between now and August.

Stryke 9 · **Reply #14 on:** June 23, 2003, 05:00:37 pm

You're complaining that there are no more 3m kangaroos? Maybe I'm missing something, but that's like weeping over the fact that there are no deerlephants crossing the roads out here any more.

diamondgeezer · **Reply #15 on:** June 23, 2003, 06:33:05 pm

Ah come on Stryke, you want to see them clone mammoths as much as the rest of us

Stryke 9 · **Reply #16 on:** June 23, 2003, 06:35:05 pm

Until I end up wrapping my front bumper around one, I don't mind.

Turnsky · **Reply #17 on:** June 23, 2003, 06:47:34 pm

or getting bogged down in.... err nevermind:nervous:

Bobboau · **Reply #18 on:** June 23, 2003, 08:18:34 pm

you know they should clone the Thylacine, I think they have a few good DNA samples, it's one of the few animals I realy would like to see cloned back from extinction.

Turnsky · **Reply #19 on:** June 23, 2003, 08:23:33 pm

ah, yes the tasmanian tiger, one creature wiped out by human stupidity..

I live in tas BTW

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