[Raptor]

Fraid there's been no progress, as I've been away from my computer for a week.

Hmmm, you have a point there JCD, maybe 'Hera' is better after all.....

I must admit, I would like to know what the Moddeling Masters (Aldo for one, plus others who I can't remember right now) think of this......

Must go now, To create new textures for this beast (and to poke though Inferno's POF files.... )

[Raptor]

BUMP!

Okay, since I can go no further with this by myself , I am putting the scn, cob, and bmp texture files up for download. Also included is the new engine texture, to be used on the finished model.

This is in the hope that one of the great modelling masters will take pity on me and give this ship the texturing it needs

www.angelfire.com/space2/raptorsnest/GTDSaturnWIP.zip (EDIT: Link is out of date and no longer works.  See later post for new link)

In case you have forgotten what it looks like: ( as if:lol: )
http://www.angelfire.com/space2/raptorsnest/GTDSaturn.html

I'm not likely to be around for a while, so if you need my opinon on ideas for this ship, PM me.  I'll get back to you at some point.

If you want to use this ship, either the finished version or this mesh, feel free.  Just give credit where credits due.

[Sigma]

OK, I'm not the best modeler but I try to texture this ship.

Raptor, could you please release the turrets ,too?

[Star Dragon]

I just hope you like my interpretation...

The GTD Saturn (looks surprisingly similar to a certain B5 ship LOL!) Hades on crack! (they way it SHOULD have been! Can't wait to see it when you get turrents on it...

  If I may be so bold, I would like to offer some suggestions for gun placement (type). I simply LOVE this model. It is very gutsy to have an exposed bridge (a "flying bridge") like the Yamato/Argo, and ceratin other famous ones. Thank you for making availble such a cool ship!

GTD Saturn (as a battelship/light carrier)
http://photo.starblvd.net/Star_Dragon/6-3-1-1061225299?m=0&pg=5&ro=2&co=0

Blows up nicely (no problems)
http://photo.starblvd.net/Star_Dragon/6-3-2-1061472321?m=0&pg=5&ro=2&co=1

Plenty of room in the hangar
http://photo.starblvd.net/Star_Dragon/6-3-5-1060193966?m=0&pg=5&ro=2&co=4

New engines and warping out
http://photo.starblvd.net/Star_Dragon/6-4-4-1061472433?m=0&pg=5&ro=3&co=3


I spent about 4 hours matching texture combos to try to fit the way I envisioned it, I hope you approve...


[Edit] My cookies were deleted so I missed the 2nd page where you showed a picture of the turrents so please disregard above cooments about weapon suggestions. I only mention that cause I was thiking of the Shock Cannons on the Argo (WWII style), nice and streamlined, not blocky like normal FS2 ships)... L8tr!

[karajorma]

Looks like your modelling skills are improving SD but please start saying TURRETS. There's no such thing as turrents.

[Star Dragon]

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[karajorma]

It's a commonly misspelled word.

I tried OneLook to search for and found nothing. Turret on the other hand results in several hits.

Best place to check for a spelling is in a dictionary rather than a search engine cause the search will turn up cases where people spelled it incorrectly and didn't realise

As for lots of people spelling it wrong you aren't even the only person on HLP to spell it wrong

[Raptor]

Oh, sorry Sigma, I've updated the zip file, now it includes cob models, maps, table stuff and a long background and notes on the ship.

Oh StarDragon, which B5 ship do you mean?

about that mapping, hmmm, not sure.  I find that having a POF file that I can open in modelview makes it easier to look at and study.  I suggest you redown load the zip, I included a few pointers about the textures.

I'm not likely to be around for a while, so if I don't reply quickly, don't panic, I will get around to it.

[Star Dragon]

I backtracked and DL'ed the GTDSaturnWIP link again hoping for the one with turrents (blame my schooling )...

   Did I miss the link to the updated Saturn?

BTW: The ship I mentioned was referred to earlier as teh Excalibur (From B5 Crusade)... The Excalibur had a main weapon that shot a tribeam from the engine pylons to teh nose of teh ship and then as the energy spiked a hughe macoss type beam would obliterate the enemy ship(s). Only problem was 90% ship functions were depowered for 60 secs due to enormous power loss.  NOw if there was only some way to duplicate that weapon effect for the Saturn!!!!!! I would totally rock!

Hey Raptor, it was really fun playing with such a cool model. If you have any other WIP's like that (already mapped, just needing re-texture) please let me know!

For now I am using the unturrented model as a prototype or ship under construction (you have to defend it cause it can't fight yet)... (oh now our new secret weapon isn't ready and it's under attack! Horror!)

[Raptor]

Originally posted by Star Dragon
I backtracked and DL'ed the GTDSaturnWIP link again hoping for the one with turrents (blame my schooling )...

   Did I miss the link to the updated Saturn?

Hmm, I'll investigate this at a later date.  I DID upload a newer version of the file, and I'm sure I said over right.....

I may make a new link......

Originally posted by Star Dragon
BTW: The ship I mentioned was referred to earlier as teh Excalibur (From B5 Crusade)... The Excalibur had a main weapon that shot a tribeam from the engine pylons to teh nose of teh ship and then as the energy spiked a hughe macoss type beam would obliterate the enemy ship(s). Only problem was 90% ship functions were depowered for 60 secs due to enormous power loss.  NOw if there was only some way to duplicate that weapon effect for the Saturn!!!!!! I would totally rock!

Oh. Cool.

Originally posted by Star Dragon
Hey Raptor, it was really fun playing with such a cool model. If you have any other WIP's like that (already mapped, just needing re-texture) please let me know!

Don't tempt me! I've got hordes of ideas buzzing around!  Terran light cruisers, mega freighters, Shivan super-bombers, the whole show.  I have even started putting a Imperial 'Battlefleet Gothic' cruiser into TS!:eek2:

[Star Dragon]

Bring them on! If you can make it, we can texture it (LOL)... I think it's fun getting a WIP and then posting our interpretations of the ship's 'look'... I recently had a ball with the chig fighter attempt.

I DL'ed it again this morning but still same file from earlier. If the file is uploaded is the link to it wrong? (still getting un-turrented vesion)...

Once again Kudos on a kick-ass model! (looking forward to seeing/playing with more)... L8tr!

[Raptor]

UPDATE:

Okay, recently came back to the Saturn, remade some of the turrets, re-turretted the ship as well (only 64 turrets now), better arrangement of weapons.

Still needs a good mapper to make it look great!

Will upload whole new zip file (in seperate location, old one has been removed) ASAP (some time next week)

Other models in progress....

[Galemp]

I'm a good mapper...

And I'd like to see this with Hades textures. It does sort of look like a Hades, after all.

[TrashMan]

Coold turret textures!!!

Can I have those? Pweaseeeeee!!!

EDIT: Got it...DOH!:D   Great textures...gonna make use of them!

[Flipside]

I agree with karajorma, you certainly can't fault the textures on the turrets themselves! It's looks almost homeworldesque

Flipside

[Raptor]

Okay, I have a new zip file with the following in it:

All .cob models (hull, turrets, and completed)
the .scn files
the .bmp and .pcx maps used
.tbl entires
current .pof file
notes on ship, ideas and pointers

The pof file is working, and has no holes.  It also has my first attempt at pathing.  All the subsystems have been pathed, as has the lauch bay paths (I hope), but as yet no paths for the turrets.

http://www.angelfire.com/space2/raptorsnest/SaturnR2.zip
[EDIT]link removed.
Note: In TS the turrets are textured as I what them, but in game the texturing is messed up.

You may need to change the sounds for the large guns (the heavy cannons and the Turboplasma), and reset the Flak muzzle flash.

[Raptor]

Hello? has anyone tried this new download yet? Anybody?

[Deathstorm V2]

I tried to yesterday, but the downloaded fire came in about 800Kb short and would'nt unzip.  Trying again as I speak... well, type.

[Culando]

Downloaded it, tried to look at it in Model View, got an error about too many turrets. o_O From what I've seen though, it looks really cool.

I do have another question though. Did you ever fix that pumped up Hades you were working on that you mentioned on the first page of this topic? >_>

[Raptor]

Originally posted by Culando
Downloaded it, tried to look at it in Model View, got an error about too many turrets. o_O From what I've seen though, it looks really cool.

Hmm, thats odd.  It opens fine for me.  Have you tried it in game yet?

Which version of Modelview are you using? I'm using modelview32, v1.0 beta4b (build 26).

I do have another question though. Did you ever fix that pumped up Hades you were working on that you mentioned on the first page of this topic? >_> [/B]

Haven't looked at that for a while, but I'll get to it at some point (been a bit busy making new ship meshs)

Must point out, due to my last turret rethink, I forgot to remove a couple of lines at the back of the bow section.  This causes a pair of 'invisable faces' to appear (more that 2 vertices in a row).