Poll

The most boring is ...

Placing ships, orders, wings, waypoints
1 (3.7%)
Events, mission goals, everything with SEXPs
5 (18.5%)
Debriefing, briefing, Command briefing
5 (18.5%)
Background
2 (7.4%)
Testing and bugfixing
14 (51.9%)
Ship/Weapon loadout setting
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 27

Voting closed: August 31, 2003, 12:54:16 pm

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Offline TopAce

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Most boring in FRED
Which is the most boring part of designing a misison?
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Offline Goober5000

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Background, definitely.  I've never done my own background for a mission I've released - it's just too cumbersome.  Copy and paste. :nod:

Bug fixing is annoying, but not boring.

 

Offline Knight Templar

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I still consider myself pretty new to fredding, so I have trouble with some stuff still, and trouble = boring to me. So it depends on how well i'm doing, but I must say making Message Sexps and Breifings and Debreifings I find are the most boring.
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Offline diamondgeezer

Writing millions of trivial but still neccessary messages are annoying (I refuse to use the built-in ones), but it's the testing and bug-fixing that does my head in. Playing the same ****ing mission over and over, to test a feature that's at the very end... aaarg :hopping:

 

Offline Woolie Wool

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Events and directives. *snore*
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

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Offline Woolie Wool

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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Writing millions of trivial but still neccessary messages are annoying (I refuse to use the built-in ones), but it's the testing and bug-fixing that does my head in. Playing the same ****ing mission over and over, to test a feature that's at the very end... aaarg :hopping:


Testing it is the fun part, unless DirectX blows up and forces you to restart your computer.:mad:
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

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Testing and bugfixing.. with everything else there is a much greater creative element... how can I tweak the background to suit the ambience of the mission? How can I set the mood with briefings and in-game messages? What nifty things can I do with events?

Bugfixing, however, normally involves playing through the mission again and again, normally for a problem at the end.

:nod:

 

Offline diamondgeezer

Woolie, you seem to have the whole lot backwards. Testing the same mission over and over is mind-numbing, where as directives and events are where you do the clever, creative stuff.

Unless you're winding me up. Which I doubt.

 

Offline Woolie Wool

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Maybe because my soon-to-be released mission, the only decent one I've ever made so far (probably because it's the only one I've really put a lot of effort into--it took 20 days to make), is fun for me to play even after the 1000000th time. Either that or I've got a warped sense of fun (maybe I do since I'm such a big fan of the game Blood). Or both.
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

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Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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OK, who vote-bumped it?

 

Offline Woolie Wool

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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Woolie, you seem to have the whole lot backwards. Testing the same mission over and over is mind-numbing, where as directives and events are where you do the clever, creative stuff.

Unless you're winding me up. Which I doubt.


The clever, creative stuff is a ***** to make with all those damned sexps (my mission is a relatively simple furball and it must have 15-20 events)
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

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Offline Woolie Wool

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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
OK, who vote-bumped it?


Why would ask such a question about a thread that's only a few hours old at most?
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
OK, who vote-bumped it?


No one. It just looks exactly the same as the previous topic :lol:
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Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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That'll be it, then, I thought from the date that it was from the 2nd of Feb, but I'd forgotten that Americans like their dates backwards.

 

Offline diamondgeezer

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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
The clever, creative stuff is a ***** to make with all those damned sexps (my mission is a relatively simple furball and it must have 15-20 events)

Oh, I see. You're not an ambitious FREDder, then. My mistake. I, er, look forward to playing your mission.

 

Offline TopAce

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Sometimes I find something interesting while FREDing, this is always changing day by day, sometimes, I am in the Background editor all day :) , sometimes, I would want to edit the background ... I press SHIFT, but has no force and mood to press I, too.

I hate doing complicated SEXPs, especially in the debriefing, testing it is even more nervous killer when it is not working than playing bearbaiting on Insane, when at the start I send all my wingmen home. (Who doesn't want to go home, I shoot 'im down, that's another topic):D
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Offline Woolie Wool

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Originally posted by diamondgeezer

Oh, I see. You're not an ambitious FREDder, then. My mistake. I, er, look forward to playing your mission.


I still put in lots of events because I need them to make a good mission. I don't understand what exactly you mean by "ambitious". I do put in events, I just don't particulary enjoy it, because it is slow and tedious work. And don't make judgements on my mission before you play it.
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

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Offline Woolie Wool

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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
That'll be it, then, I thought from the date that it was from the 2nd of Feb, but I'd forgotten that Americans like their dates backwards.


I think it is you who have your dates backwards. Then again, we're talking about the same country who pronounces the E in "coupe" with a horrible-sounding French acute accent (It's 'coop', not 'coo-pay').
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

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Offline Solatar

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Originally posted by Woolie Wool


I think it is you who have your dates backwards. Then again, we're talking about the same country who pronounces the E in "coupe" with a horrible-sounding French acute accent (It's 'coop', not 'coo-pay').


Watch it, you're gonna get flamed...even by an American such as myself.

 

Offline Knight Templar

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Originally posted by Woolie Wool


I think it is you who have your dates backwards. Then again, we're talking about the same country who pronounces the E in "coupe" with a horrible-sounding French acute accent (It's 'coop', not 'coo-pay').


shut the fuck up already. Everyone knows australia is the backward country, so stop being an idiot.
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