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Which set will you accept?

Gimme the orange, I want to keep my roots in humanity and the sense world!
4 (14.8%)
I think therefore I am, blue it is for me!
9 (33.3%)
Neither / Remain as-is
14 (51.9%)

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Voting closed: August 09, 2003, 10:56:11 pm

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Offline Kamikaze

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on: July 20, 2003, 10:55:13 pm
I thought I'd post a topic once in a while and so made a vote out of a thought I had on IRC...


So, one day Mr. Uber intercepts you on your daily walk/computer-binge/wanking and offers you a new set of sparkly eyes, in two colours, and mentalities to suit.

He tells you one of them, the light orange, will offer you "Ultimate Sense and Emotion", the ability to view everyone with understanding, love and sympathy or alternately with with loath and complete malevolence. Your physical reality (senses/reactions) are bolstered to full.

The other blue set will give you "Complete Knowledge and Rationality", it'll enable you to see everything with complete analytical understanding, you won't care about it, but you will know it. You will also be able to depart from your physical sense and reactions in favor of a systematic rationality.

Do you accept either? Why?

(to put it simply, do you like your senses and emotions meddling with your rationality and your rationality destroying your emotional happy-land? Or do you want to flee with one of these ? )
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Reply #1 on: July 20, 2003, 10:58:54 pm
Rationality.

Emotions are for the inferior people.
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Reply #2 on: July 20, 2003, 11:15:47 pm
I've added the third, "remain as-is", option. Don't be mad... :nervous:

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Reply #3 on: July 20, 2003, 11:17:24 pm
can an  admin add an option for "Screw him, I'll stay in the middle"?? <-- EDIT: nevermind, I see you were ahead :p

And an0n, I did a bit of revision on the emotion part since IRC so you may want to take a second look. You might be more willing to keep your attachment to human malevolence and enjoyyment than the "compassion" thing it was earlier. I thought that emotion in general is more in opposition with rationality, than compassion/love.
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Reply #4 on: July 20, 2003, 11:20:50 pm
Let me get this straight. I'm walking down an alleyway- or, yet worse, jacking off- and this guy comes up and offers me a set of eyeballs.

See, this is the point at which you're glad the concealed weapons laws are pretty lax.
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Reply #5 on: July 20, 2003, 11:23:32 pm
So I've now got the choice of being a Vulcan or a sex-fiend?

You honestly think I'd be swayed by physical pleasure? How shallow do you think I am?

Rationality all the goddamn way.
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Reply #6 on: July 20, 2003, 11:24:24 pm
I already am omniscient and objective. No trouble, even.
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Offline Kamikaze

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Reply #7 on: July 20, 2003, 11:25:30 pm
You have concealed weapons with you when wanking? ;)
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Reply #8 on: July 20, 2003, 11:26:12 pm
If he's wanking, it's not concealed.

*badum-bum-cha!*
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Reply #9 on: July 20, 2003, 11:27:28 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Let me get this straight. I'm walking down an alleyway- or, yet worse, jacking off- and this guy comes up and offers me a set of eyeballs.

See, this is the point at which you're glad the concealed weapons laws are pretty lax.


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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #10 on: July 20, 2003, 11:30:11 pm
So he's like one of those new terminator guys with the screw-on plasma dick?

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Reply #11 on: July 20, 2003, 11:32:36 pm
should be pretty obvious in my case... :D
 

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Reply #12 on: July 21, 2003, 12:15:01 am
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Reply #13 on: July 21, 2003, 12:50:14 am
I'd pull a Turnsky and ask for one of each :p
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Reply #14 on: July 21, 2003, 12:51:05 am
I'd wear a patch over one eye so I could see at night! :D
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Reply #15 on: July 21, 2003, 05:16:54 am
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Originally posted by Sandwich
I've added the third, "remain as-is", option. Don't be mad... :nervous:

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Reply #16 on: July 21, 2003, 07:04:14 am
But if the blue eyes offer you complete understanding you would know where the guy got the other set from and figure out how to have both :D
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Reply #17 on: July 21, 2003, 08:43:37 am
I'd think that this guy is full of ****
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Reply #18 on: July 21, 2003, 11:00:06 am
I think, therefore I am Republican :p
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Reply #19 on: July 21, 2003, 11:22:38 am
Which explains entirely why you're repeating a half-assed slogan someone else made in a thread where it has nothing at all to do with anything except that it happens to share one significant word with a previous post.



Pure genius. This goes a long way toward explaining why Bush is in office, as opposed to, say, someone not completely insane and a retard to boot.
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