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Offline Sandwich

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on: August 24, 2003, 05:47:25 pm
http://www.brainzipper.com/bz/index.php

Purely design-wise, what do you think? There's still obviously tons more to do.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #1 on: August 24, 2003, 06:56:46 pm
wow, that's... probly the most useless site I've ever seen...
yup...
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Reply #2 on: August 24, 2003, 07:15:45 pm
LOL

Looks nice though, though, of course it will be much better when the single link is working ;)

I know, I know, it's a WIP :D

Flipside :)
 

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Reply #3 on: August 24, 2003, 07:40:53 pm
color scheme is nice... :nervous:
 

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Reply #4 on: August 24, 2003, 09:12:57 pm
I don't like the thing which I assume to be standard Photoshop clouds as the background. Try something more fiitting for the tech look. A simple line pattern ought to do it.

Make a 5 x 5 pixel image. Draw a + sign, then delete one pixel from each border of the image. Edit > Define Pattern. Voila.

Or, you know, I could be wrong. Also, try making the background colour for the main box the same as the one in the navigation box. If you were to do that, the page background would need to be something close to black. I like the logo though, good stuff

Looks good, though, nice start:yes: :yes:
 

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Reply #5 on: August 25, 2003, 12:50:29 am
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I don't like the thing which I assume to be standard Photoshop clouds as the background. Try something more fiitting for the tech look. A simple line pattern ought to do it.

Make a 5 x 5 pixel image. Draw a + sign, then delete one pixel from each border of the image. Edit > Define Pattern. Voila.

Or, you know, I could be wrong. Also, try making the background colour for the main box the same as the one in the navigation box. If you were to do that, the page background would need to be something close to black. I like the logo though, good stuff

Looks good, though, nice start:yes: :yes:


Originally (read: years ago) I made this whole huge composite in Photoshop with a cloud layer showing through a thin grid, like it does in the BG of the main and nav areas. Then I painstakingly made that composite tileable and used it as the BG for a whole page (this was in my pre-CSS days).

Now I know better, so I can simply have the clounds as one BG, and the partially transparent grid as the BG for elements over the clouds.

I'm tempted either to make the clounds a Greg Martin-esque starscape. or to expand the boxes to cover the clouds nearly completely.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #6 on: August 25, 2003, 06:03:10 am
Nice logo :)
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Reply #7 on: August 25, 2003, 09:29:53 am
Its not bad, Sandwich. Its signifigantly better than not bad, actually. :D

I'd like to see it with another third column on the right (My website, when it was up, had three columns: left-menu, center/story, right-menu) .

What's the site for? It looks good for a game oriented site, or maybe a gallery site, but I'd probably not use it for a news/training site. Without some indication of purpose, its hard to look at it critically.
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Reply #8 on: August 25, 2003, 01:20:12 pm
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Its not bad, Sandwich. Its signifigantly better than not bad, actually. :D

I'd like to see it with another third column on the right (My website, when it was up, had three columns: left-menu, center/story, right-menu) .

What's the site for? It looks good for a game oriented site, or maybe a gallery site, but I'd probably not use it for a news/training site. Without some indication of purpose, its hard to look at it critically.


A third column can be added quite easily, but I won't unless I actually have need of it.

As for its purpose, in general it'll eventually replace what I currently have on BrainZipper, but more modular, dynamic, and without frames. But who knows, if I ever find a team and the time to resume work on SOpO, perhaps I'll use this as a general site template. ;)
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #9 on: August 25, 2003, 01:27:04 pm
btw:
Games belong in C:\Games\. Period.

No, on my computer, they belong to D:\jeux\, there's no "period" allowed.
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Reply #10 on: August 25, 2003, 01:31:37 pm
nice desing Sandy:yes:
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Reply #11 on: August 25, 2003, 01:59:53 pm
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Originally posted by Venom
btw:
Games belong in C:\Games\. Period.

No, on my computer, they belong to D:\jeux\, there's no "period" allowed.
Blah :D


:wtf:
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #12 on: August 25, 2003, 02:22:04 pm
He's French. Anyway, games go wherever I feel like putting them. They're all over my hard drives.
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Reply #13 on: August 25, 2003, 03:13:34 pm
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:wtf:

He's talking about that thing you have on your current site... with all those odd pics and whatnot...
 

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Reply #14 on: August 25, 2003, 03:22:58 pm
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Anyway, games go wherever I feel like putting them. They're all over my hard drives.


Why does that not suprise me :wtf::nervous:

I would have put them in Program Files myself, but Freespace was the first thing I installed on my newly reformatted HD and it set the precident.  Good thing too, since it is so much easier to browse to files in a directory other than Program Files on any new Windows OS.
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Reply #15 on: August 25, 2003, 03:32:05 pm
I partitioned my drives... I have 20 gigs set aside for games...
 

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Reply #16 on: August 25, 2003, 05:35:39 pm
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He's talking about that thing you have on your current site... with all those odd pics and whatnot...


Yeah, I know - the ":wtf:" was aimed more at the "D:\jeux\" thing. :p
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #17 on: August 25, 2003, 05:38:16 pm
Jeux is French for Game
 

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Reply #18 on: August 25, 2003, 06:08:47 pm
Yeah, I gathered that, but still... tell me, do the alphabets of cryllic (?) based languages (English-based or whatever it's called) have the same order - abcdefg etc etc? Cause the PC drive listing must be really messed up for some people's way of thinking if not. :p
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
  

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Reply #19 on: August 25, 2003, 06:37:14 pm
no, they are the same.  'D' follows 'C' so logic would dictate that Venom has 2 hard drives or a partitioned drive.  Windows assigns drive letters automatically to internal components, so you could have A:/ B:/ (second floppy drive, a hold-over I guess from the days of floppy disk swapping or booting from floppies as you can't assign anything to letter 'B') C:/ D:/ E:/ (Hard disks, you can actually buy systems with 3 drives these days), F:/ for a zip, and G:/ H:/ for CD/DVD drives.  A little far fetched given that no one actually needs all of that stuff in a computer, but the BIOS/OS can do it that way if need be.  Or, if you had one hard drive and a CD drive, and added a second hard drive, then the drive letter for the CD would switch from D to E.

EDIT: I just realized how confusing that actually is.  To restate, it goes "Floppies, Hard Drives [always skips to C for first HD], Removable Media, [aka zip or similar drives], CD/DVD.  I'm leaving the original garble there for reference to what a confusing post (by a native English speaker, I might add) looks like :p

And Sandwich, the character set used by the Germanic (English) and Romantic languages is Roman.  Cyrillic languages are like Greek/Russian, aren't they?
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