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Offline Sandwich

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on: September 03, 2003, 01:17:59 am
This  from a  Marine stationed in Bagdad - with the notation:

"In case you come across anyone who stills thinks that the War in Iraq was a bad idea, show them this. Some GI's found this in one of Saddam's  palaces in Baghdad."
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Reply #1 on: September 03, 2003, 01:24:28 am
:hopping:

did they burn it afterwards?
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Reply #2 on: September 03, 2003, 01:49:41 am
And to think, if the US hadn't invaded Iraq they never would have found it and this discussion wouldn't be taking place. In other words, despite that picture I still think the war was a bad idea.
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Offline diamondgeezer

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Reply #3 on: September 03, 2003, 03:14:52 am
In other words, ignorance is bliss?
 

Offline Nico

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Reply #4 on: September 03, 2003, 03:18:57 am
Of course Hussein was happy about the towers, what did you expect?
anyway, that sounds so fake, they found that a week before the event anniversary, when they've had control over those palaces for a couple monthes? yeah, right.
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Reply #5 on: September 03, 2003, 03:23:29 am
It did seem a bit fishy, true. But you don't know exactly when it was found, all you know is when Sandwich posted it. The date on the pic is either September 4th ( :doubt: ) or April 9th 2003. And we have not one scrap of evidence that it is fake. Try to be more objective when criticising :)
 

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Reply #6 on: September 03, 2003, 03:49:50 am
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
It did seem a bit fishy, true. But you don't know exactly when it was found, all you know is when Sandwich posted it. The date on the pic is either September 4th ( :doubt: ) or April 9th 2003. And we have not one scrap of evidence that it is fake. Try to be more objective when criticising :)


The fact that the date is listed as 2003-04-09 (year first) would indicate that it's most definitely April 9th, 2003. Americans may be backwards (April 9th, 2003 = 4/9/2003 :rolleyes: ), but when things are turned around so the year is in front, there is only one logical conclusion.

EDIT: Also, I got this by email from my mom, who got it from someone, etc. Anyway, I was going to post the original file, but then I saw that it was both 1280x960 (or something like that) and over 200Kb in size. So I shrunk it down in Photoshop.

But the point is, the file I got by email - and I can link to it if anyone really wants me to) is unmodified from its original state - it still has the EXIF data embedded (EXIF is the header info embedded in JPEGs by digital camrea with all sorts of interesting info, such as exposure mode, date/time, white balance setting, etc etc).

Just in case anyone started to claim this must be a Photoshopped image or anything. :)
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

Offline diamondgeezer

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Reply #7 on: September 03, 2003, 04:08:19 am
Well, that and the fact that it's not September 4th until tomorrow - and Iraq isn't that far east :)
 

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Reply #8 on: September 03, 2003, 05:39:28 am
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Originally posted by Venom
Of course Hussein was happy about the towers, what did you expect?


Yeah, exactly. I'm not surprised seeing this sort of propaganda poster at all... seems standard fare for wartime.
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Reply #9 on: September 03, 2003, 07:22:57 am
I supose if we found part of a nuke that'd be propaganda too...
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Reply #10 on: September 03, 2003, 07:30:35 am
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I supose if we found part of a nuke that'd be propaganda too...


find one, first, and we'll talk about it :doubt:
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Reply #11 on: September 03, 2003, 07:32:05 am
Whoop de doo :rolleyes: It doesn't imply any physical support was given to them. An offensive picture is hardly a good reason to invade a country.
 

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Reply #12 on: September 03, 2003, 07:34:24 am
well there was the centrifuge thingy, remember, the thing that the guy had for makeing inriched uranium that Sadam forced him to hide in his back yard for the better part of a decade along with all the documants needed to restart there nuke program in a few months after the UN lost interest...
but that's just all evil bushy lies
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Reply #13 on: September 03, 2003, 07:37:01 am
Or we could ask the dude who was head of the Iraqi nuclear energy authority - he was locked in a cupboard for ten years becuase he didn't know how to build a bomb.

Anyway, On the subject of war...
 

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Reply #14 on: September 03, 2003, 08:23:55 am
You know, just because they thought 11/9/2001 was a good thing, it doesn't mean we had provocation to start a war.

While I support any action that reaffirms our tactical and strategic goals in this little east/west spat, I refuse to accept we had any noble goals in invading Iraq. We did it because we needed another foothold in the middle east. Unfortunately the post-war management has rather destroyed that plan.
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Reply #15 on: September 03, 2003, 08:28:23 am
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Originally posted by Bobboau
well there was the centrifuge thingy, remember, the thing that the guy had for makeing inriched uranium that Sadam forced him to hide in his back yard for the better part of a decade along with all the documants needed to restart there nuke program in a few months after the UN lost interest...


Search for five minutes on the web. that centrifuge thinguy, I can order one today if I want. It's a tool that can be used for nukes crappadoo, but it's not the original purpose.
Anyway, of course he has the stuff. Hell, in 91, Bush senior sold nuke detonators to Saddam ( cool, heh, one year before invading it ), Mitterand sold pieces for nuke powerplants, etc etc. of course they have all that, everybody knows that already.
But there's no nuke, and that's all there is to know.
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Reply #16 on: September 03, 2003, 11:39:49 am
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Originally posted by Bobboau
I supose if we found part of a nuke that'd be propaganda too...


Well they dug up some equipment used for enriching uranium.
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Reply #17 on: September 03, 2003, 12:19:49 pm
Firstly, What everyone is forgetting is that we(America) ousted one of the world's most feared dictators.

It's done.  Don't whine and be a little ***** because you can sleep a little safer at night.

Secondly, if you're(the World Community) lucky, we'll let you in on the humanitarian side of reconstruction.  But if you think we're going to let you turn Iraq into another whiney, socialist joke of a country, you got another thing coming.

Thirdly, and this is directed more at Sandwich and his compatriots, Go Get Em'!  The people of Israel have lived in fear long enough and the only way it will end is with a total victory on one side or the other.  Not another ceasefire or land for peace deal, but honest, true, last man standing VICTORY!


Okay, now that my rant is over, these remarks are general, National level opinions.  I don't hold personal grudges unless their a complete bastard.
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Reply #18 on: September 03, 2003, 12:30:26 pm
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Firstly, What everyone is forgetting is that we(America) ousted one of the world's most feared dictators.

It's done.  Don't whine and be a little ***** because you can sleep a little safer at night.

Secondly, if you're(the World Community) lucky, we'll let you in on the humanitarian side of reconstruction.  But if you think we're going to let you turn Iraq into another whiney, socialist joke of a country, you got another thing coming.

Thirdly, and this is directed more at Sandwich and his compatriots, Go Get Em'!  The people of Israel have lived in fear long enough and the only way it will end is with a total victory on one side or the other.  Not another ceasefire or land for peace deal, but honest, true, last man standing VICTORY!


Okay, now that my rant is over, these remarks are general, National level opinions.  I don't hold personal grudges unless their a complete bastard.



when i first read this, i thought you were sarcastic. now, i am hoping you are.
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Reply #19 on: September 03, 2003, 12:46:31 pm
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Originally posted by kasperl



when i first read this, i thought you were sarcastic. now, i am hoping you are.


Your afraid he is pro-freedom? Hell, i'm pro-freedom too. I don't like dictators, its a personality flaw, i just cant seem to handle people who kill and torture innocent people.
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