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Have you ever managed to avenge the Colossus?

You bet!  I sent that Sathanas to a fiery grave, and not the supernova!
1 (4.8%)
Tried and failed... DAM that "Big Dammage" flag!
3 (14.3%)
Never tried... I already knew about the "Big Dammage" flag!
1 (4.8%)
Never even crossed my mind.
16 (76.2%)

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Voting closed: October 10, 2003, 01:30:14 am

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Offline Trivial Psychic

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OK, without resorting to cheats, editing the mission through some means or another, or changing table entries, have you ever managed to take down the Sathanas that tore apart the Colossus?  Every time I play "Their Finest Hour", I make an attempt, but today I came within 3% of destroying the Sathanas.  Now, I know you're wondering how I managed to get around the "Big Dammage" table flag problem, without resorting to removing such a flag from the table file.  There is a way to do it and after a week I'll post it if no one else has.  In any case, it IS possible to avenge the Colossus... that I know for sure.

Well, how'd ya' do?

Later!
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Offline T-Man

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A fighter taking on the Sathanas, ARE YOU FRIGGIN MAD!!!!!!

Now  accept youll eventully be able to smash it, but dude, at least have some bomber support.
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Offline diamondgeezer

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Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
Now, I know you're wondering how I managed to get around the "Big Dammage" table flag problem, without resorting to removing such a flag from the table file.

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Offline Hippo

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Offline TopAce

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I only attack the Sathanas if I want to improve my accuracy. Full laser recharge with Maxims firing from the distance. :)

While testing one of the missions in RR, I realized it is possible to take out a ship with 'big damage' flag without Trebuchets or Cyclops. But I am not sure why it is by. Maybe from the Stiletto, it has a 'huge' flag, and maybe it is a bug. Or simply there were too many of us attacking that ship with our lasers(9 fighters). But I experienced this in the case of a Hatshepsut, not a Sathanas.

The Hatshepsut and the Sathanas are same in this field, the Sathie is only ten times as tough.
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Offline magatsu1

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"never even crossed my mind"

must take ages if it is "do-able" though.
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Trebs kick ass....

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To return to the original question:  What shall I load out with?

Trebuchets.
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Offline pyro-manic

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Never even crossed me mind. I'd rather get on to the next mission than sit around for hours holding the trigger down...
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Offline Starks

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Well, let me put it this way....

The fact that that I was able to keep the Phoenicia alive for the entire previous mission without cheats. Who else can state that achievement? It can't be that hard to defeat a flagged Sath.
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Offline TopAce

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The Phoenicia? It is only in Bearbaiting, and it doesn't reappear anywhere else. :confused:
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Offline pyro-manic

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Me! :D That's purely a matter of luck, LLivingLarge - the sath fires at the Phoenicia as soon as it jumps in. If it fires 3 beams, Phoenicia lives. If it fires 4 beams, Phoenicia dies. If it survives the first volley, the Phoenicia jumps out anyway (IIRC), so it can't die...
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Offline Starks

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No, it did get hit by one volley and I Trebbed all four main beams... The Phoenicia actually stuck around for the whole mission and helped me out. That thing only had about 50% damage at the end of the mission.
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Offline magatsu1

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takes more than a couple of Trebs to nail the Saths main beams:wtf:
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Offline TopAce

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Those beams are exegeneratedly powerful. It is impossible that a turret of that size can be armored so heavily.
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Offline Starks

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No, it did get hit by one volley and I Trebbed all four main beams... The Phoenicia actually stuck around for the whole mission and helped me out. That thing only had about 50% damage at the end of the mission.


I meant Helii... Besides, I don't know why in hell that one particular time the Sath kept firing it's MAIN BEAMS (not fighter beams) at my wingmen.
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Offline Hippo

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Originally posted by pyro-manic
Me! :D That's purely a matter of luck, LLivingLarge - the sath fires at the Phoenicia as soon as it jumps in. If it fires 3 beams, Phoenicia lives. If it fires 4 beams, Phoenicia dies. If it survives the first volley, the Phoenicia jumps out anyway (IIRC), so it can't die...


Its pretty random whether or not it fires 3 or 4, but if it only fires 3, the phonecia comes down to 1%... It involves luck... :nod:
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Offline TrashMan

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Phoenicia cannot die.... I played the mission 8 times at least..
When it vomes to 1% it becomes invulnerable..

Sath fires...hull goes to 1%... sath keeps on fireing (it's beams are still on for a good 2-3 seconds), the hull integrity blinks, but it doesn't budge...
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Offline StratComm

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In standard FS, it was possible for the Phoenicia to die, pretty easy in fact.  It all depends on whether or not the SEXP that triggers the invulnerability fires in time; the Sath beams are so powerful the Phoenicia can die between refreshes of the SEXP checks.  It usually does trigger correctly, but it isn't unusual to see her blow.
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Offline Hippo

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she departs at 4% no matter what, even if destroyed while speeding up, she still departs then and there...
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Offline StratComm

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I've seen Phonecia debris, though.  It's a timing issue with those overpowered beams.
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