[übermetroid]

Ok, Freespace story line questions for the all knowing.

What happened to the HOL?  I forget.
Durring FS2 were there any sightings of a lucy?
Were all the shivans at Capella?  Or would I be right to assume that the GTVA still have to "mop" up a few left over battle groups after Capella went boom?

Shoot, I know I had some more...  I made a big list while I was writing out my campaign.  Oh well, I will edit this later.  

[Galemp]

1. Crushed in Operation Templar in 2345, one of the first official actions of the GTVA. It's a 4-mission FS2 multiplayer campaign, check it out.

2. No.

3. A few Shivan cruisers may have managed to make it through the Vega and Epsilon Pegasi nodes whilst chasing refugees, but the recovery craft on the other side would have mopped them up quickly.

[übermetroid]

Originally posted by Galemp
....

1)Templar?  I head that sucked.  I will have to check it out now.
2)Thats too bad.  Maybe they were seen and they were hunted down.  And maybe that happened after Capella.  
3)Or did they?

[Knight Templar]

....
Maybe not.
No actually, they really didn't.

[übermetroid]

If Templar is canon then so is "The Trap" from the SOTY edition...  And it says ships made it out.

[Knight Templar]

Not really. Templar was more of an add-on user campaign acknowledged by V to a certain extent IIRC. Big difference from approved single tech room missions.

[übermetroid]

Oh.  Oh well....  In my univerise some made it out.  :-)

[diamondgeezer]

No-one will argue with that. It's a perfectly reasonable supposition. So go with it

[TopAce]

If you excuse me, I wouldn't consider the Templar campaign canon. It is only a multiplayer campaign. If it were a single player camp, I would say it is fairly canon.

[Setekh]

Originally posted by TopAce
If you excuse me, I wouldn't consider the Templar campaign canon. It is only a multiplayer campaign. If it were a single player camp, I would say it is fairly canon.

I agree that it's not canon, but not because it's multiplayer - rather because it was acknowledged, not created, by V.

[übermetroid]

I was reading the TECH info in game and in the spot that talks about the HOL it says that most of them were wiped out durring Operation Templar.  So that means that it is cannon, right?

[karajorma]

Pretty much I'd say. If they disagreed with it they wouldn't have mentioned it.

[Nuclear1]

Originally posted by ubermetroid


What happened to the HOL? As people said, Operation Templar finished them off.

Durring FS2 were there any sightings of a lucy?None that V has mentioned.

Were all the shivans at Capella?  A good portion of them were. If you're asking if they were in a different side of the galaxy from Capella, no (well, without Derelict anyway ), but the Shivan armada was concentrated in Capella, Gamma Draconis, and those whereabouts.

 [/B]

Originally posted by ubermetroid
Oh. Oh well.... In my univerise some made it out.

Easily supportable. One of the transports from the final mission of Operation Templar was intended to escape with HOL personnel, so a reappearance could be viable.

Originally posted by ubermetroid
If Templar is canon then so is "The Trap" from the SOTY edition... And it says ships made it out.

Wasn't The Trap dealing with Shivan capitals and not the HOL? Or was it somewhere in the CB that I missed? *goes to play that mission*

[Thylrial]

Originally posted by TopAce
If you excuse me, I wouldn't consider the Templar campaign canon. It is only a multiplayer campaign. If it were a single player camp, I would say it is fairly canon.

I read that the Templar campaign was available in single player with the special edition of the game. However, I cannot say for sure since I don't have that version.

And I would believe it is quite cannon, although you cannot be sure the HOL was *completely* crushed by this operation. Who knows, perhaps all these tensions and plain insubordination (Rebels & Renegades IIRC) linked with the Vasudans are due to a few HOL members here and there? Or these spiritual leaders which are now hiding the database aludes to.

[Nuclear1]

It is available in SP for GOTY edition.

[übermetroid]

Does anybody need the GOTY edition stuff?  I could zip it and hand it out if needed.

Maybe then I could actually be doing something useful for the community.  

[Galemp]

Funny, I always thought Templar was made by Volition, what with the full voice acting and all. Plus it's mentioned in the FS2 HoL tech entry so that makes it official. I'll have to look up the names of the mission designers in FRED, see if they're V staff.

When do we get the :V: smilie back, I wonder...

[Thylrial]

Ubermetroid, I have the nasty habit of collecting everything I can think. If you don't mind, could you send me these files, if it also makes you feel better?

[Setekh]

Actually, I've been hunting that stuff down for as long as I can remember. Register a Swooh account and get uploading, soldier.

Oh, and welcome to HLP, Thylrial!

[karajorma]

I put a copy up myself.

Click me

EDIT : I checked. Templer was created by Brad Johnson who also FREDded several FS2 official missions. As far as I'm concerned that's enough to make templar canon.

I seem to remember hearing that the single player version was user created from the original multiplayer version and that might be what is causing confusion