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Offline RandomTiger

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Can I change the gamma system?
I would like to change the current D3D gamma system to work in such a way that everything in the game and frontend is effected my the gamma value. I always have to turn my monitor brightness up just so I can see the frontend.

Codewise this means that all the work is passed over to D3D and the gamma system doesnt have to fiddle with vertex buffer data at the last moment.

Thoughts?

 

Offline Flipside

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Can I change the gamma system?
That's not a problem in my books, but I always found the Gamma slider DID change the settings for absolutely everything?

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Offline RandomTiger

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Can I change the gamma system?
The gamma slider in FS2 D3D?

 
Can I change the gamma system?
YES, I always find that it's too dark even with the gamma maxed out.  Great idea.

 

Offline Lightspeed

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Can I change the gamma system?
the slider in FS2 only changes font brightness, its really really useless. Changing that thing would be one of the best things to do ;)
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Offline RandomTiger

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Ok, well thats in cvs now.

 

Offline Kakis

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The last build I tried (the fs2_open_n) the brightness bar appeared to be reveresed. Low values for higher brightness. It's not really a problem, but it was a bit confusing at first.

 

Offline karajorma

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If it's in the version that remenace has compiled then I've got a bug report. When I first ran FS2 everything was far too dark. I went to settings and changed that and everything was fine.
 When I quit my desktop colour settings had changed. I don't know if it's cause of my monitor but I have to run both Fullscreen 3D and the desktop with the gamma values and the brightness ramped up. When FS quit it reset my settings. As soon as I opened up the display settings/advanced/colour (I'm using catalyst drivers for my R9800)  the colour reset itself but it's going to be pretty annoying if I have to do that every time I run the game.

While I'm at it I also thought the brightness bar was reversed.

Good work overall though.
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Offline RandomTiger

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Originally posted by karajorma
When I quit my desktop colour settings had changed.


I'll put a call in to put it back to normal just before the game quits. That should sort it out.

Yes, the gamma is the wrong way round but I dont really see that matters too much.

Thanks for the bug report.

 

Offline karajorma

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No problem. I'm pretty grateful for this update cause I've often found FS2 to be pretty dark an the brightness setting never helped much with that before.
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Offline RandomTiger

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Hey karajorma, could you see if you still have you gamma problem when you quit with this exe?


http://mysite.freeserve.com/thomaswhittaker/c_code/freespace/fs2_open_r.rar

 

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Still there I'm afraid. What's really odd is that if I then go to play something else that game also is very dark (even if I reset the gamma for my desktop).
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Offline RandomTiger

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O.K. Could you put everything you know about this problem into a structured report and e-mail it to me. It makes it easier for me which gets it resolved quicker.

Are you saying after you load up freespace, set it to be lighter that afterwards when you run other games its darker than it would be normally?

 

Offline karajorma

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Here's the problem. I prefered to report it here so I could attach the pictures in order.

When I first ran FS2_open with the gamma code everything was too dark. I used the brightness option to make everything look good again.

When I quit out of FS2 everything has gone dark again. I suppose it's worth mentioning that Windows is used to be very dark for me anyway. I adjusted the settings using the control panel that came with the catalyst drivers until windows was acceptably bright. Here's a pic with my settings the way I like them.



The windows defaults were Gamma : 1 and Brightness : 0 and were far too dark.

When I quit out of FS2 my desktop is at the unadjusted settings. If I click on display settings-->advanced--->colour to bring up the panel above my settings instantly change to the ones I like (but they only remain if I click okay rather than cancel).

If after doing this I then play a different game I find that it is too dark too. If I ALT-TAB out of this game call up the colour panel and click okay the game looks fine. My 3D colour panel has also been adjusted because games were also too dark until I adjusted the colour. My 3D panel looks like this



If I play FS2 again after quiting everything looks fine in-game but I get the same problem on quitting again.

My stats are as follows.

AMD XP 2100+
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Radeon 9800
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Offline RandomTiger

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OK, I'll try taking the D3D gamma value at startup and restoring that at the end. Currently I just set it to 1.0 before quitting. However since freespace starts its own D3D device that should have nothing to do with your windows, this is odd.

We may be moving into driver related problems at which point my ability to solve this will end but I will do my best.

 

Offline Lightspeed

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i have the same prob like karajorma, but it already happened with any other FSO release. I figured it a small problem so i didnt say anything and just kept opening the panel and clicking okay. It seems to be a usual problem, since this also happens with some other games.
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Offline RandomTiger

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Thanks for the info lightspeed, if that is the case I may be able to do nothing about it.

Really your drivers should be cleaning up properly after FS2 finishes. I cant use that Get code I was talking about because I've switched to pure devices which are faster but dont allow gets. Soo.. I though a cheap possible solution would be to give you a flag '-no_set_gamma' and fs2_open will not set any gamma value, hopefully then your driver gamma settings will apply to freespace.

If either of you try it make sure you post the result here.

 
 

Offline Fractux

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Using your latest build it looks great!

I haven't noticed any of the problems that have previously been mentioned been mentioned.

I'm running a GF3 with the 52.16 dets for your information.

Great work!

Cheers!
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