[Kazan]

I'm poking around with making 8 different species

the Existing Three

Terran
Vasudan
Shivan

and adding 5
Ancients
User1
User2
User3
User4


obviously this is just for icons and whatnot

[Nico]

does each species have their own engine sound/thruster ani/support ship, etc?

[Flaser]

What would be the default colors?

[Kazan]

flaser: not yet determined
venom: not sure yet

[Kazan]

there is an interesting unused feature

each individual species can have it's own shield anim

[Nico]

really?

[Kazan]

yep

[btw if putting everything in #ifdefs keying to "MORE_SPECIES"]

i am also moving a bunch of hardcoded sh1at out into a new table species_def.tbl

[Taristin]

What do you mean 'it's own shield anim'?


The shieldhit ani?

[Liberator]

One would asume that he meant that the shivans can have one, the Vasudans can have a different one, and the Terrans can have yet a different one.

Why you'd want to do this is anyone's guess, since T&V Sheild tech was derived from Shivan tech.

[Falcon]

Could each of the species have different attributes?
I'd like to see that.
example: Terrans have fast ships, Vasudan ships yield more energy, Shivans...

[Taristin]

You know that that isn't clarifying it any better...

The shivans can have one 'what'? Hit anims?  And if it is so, then you're argument is easily mooted; The technology has been altered in the 30 years since the original reverse engineering.

Why do you think Vasudans are grren, Terrans are blue/white, and shivans are red?

[Kazan]

Falcon: you do that by manipulating the ships....

different species can have different shield hit anims
each species has it's own debris texture as well

not to mention each species has it's own set of briefing icons - 35 icons  each - so if you set "$NumSpecies: 3" you can leave your icons.tbl alone

but if you change the number you have to modify your icons.tbl to compensate

[Falcon]

Hmmm maybe not the shivans more like the terrans and vasudans having a unique feature. I'll leave the shivans out they already have better beam cannons.

Where do I get access to table files though...
[starts to think then smells smoke]

[Kazan]

*points Falcon tword the FreeSpace Modding Forum* go ask your questions there, they don't belong here

[Kazan]

the "#Flyby Sounds Start" section of the sounds.tbl will also obviouslly have to be altered to match what the species_defs table sets up

BTW: You can rename the species to what-ever-the-frell-you-want

[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by Falcon
Hmmm maybe not the shivans more like the terrans and vasudans having a unique feature. I'll leave the shivans out they already have better beam cannons.

Where do I get access to table files though...
[starts to think then smells smoke]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/freespace/modding.html

[Kazan]

wow.. there are a lot of hardcoded references to volitions definition of MAX_SPECIES_NAMES (ie the number of species) which have been hardcoded at 3 instead of making reference to the define... gar

[Kazan]

look very carefully at the Knossos entry...

[Goober5000]

Cool.

[Kazan]

yes.. but for some reason it's causing a problem with model loading - hack hackage detected