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Should the Orion have more Turrets?

Yes, it needs more!
13 (59.1%)
No, It should stick to Cannon!
5 (22.7%)
Don't really care
4 (18.2%)

Total Members Voted: 22

Voting closed: December 15, 2003, 02:34:52 pm

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Offline Raptor

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okay, this is kinda hard to explain so bear with me......

I downloaded Woomeister's Mirrored Orion (the one with a hangerbay on both sides), and am planing on including it in my planed campain (as I'm sure nearly everyone is....)

Now, I decided that, for my campain, it would have been assembled more out of desperation, and would have had the weapons arrays from two Orions.  Now, I'm thinking about redoing the turrets models, but if I do, then I should really redo the original Orions turrets as well.

This brings us on to the main question.  I've always felt that the Orion (and Freespace Destroyers in general) was badly under guned.  So:

'Should I give the Standard Orion more Turrets?'

If so, please make suggestions.
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Offline karajorma

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Is your campaign set after FS2? If so do whatever you like :)
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Offline Hippo

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For the Fs1 era, it has enough turrets, as they are only used against other destroyers anyways, and fs2, well, um, i think they're OK too, but it relies on fighter support a bit more because of faster bombers and such...
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Offline pyro-manic

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Hell, yes! The Orion is horribly under-armed. It needs a whole load of flak guns and AAA beams. I'd stick a flak turret on each side, two on top, two underneath, and one on the back. Then stick an AA beam on each quarter and each bow. It's got plenty of big beams, but I'd redo the chin turret to look more like a beam turret - it looks kinda funny with a BGreen firing out of those three weedy little barrels. Change it into a projector dish shape or something. :yes:
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Offline Sniper

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the fs2 orion seems to me to have sufficient anti capship firepower, but is light on anti fighter/bomber weapons.  in my opinion theis could be solved by either more turrets, or fitting the ship with more advanced turrets.

 

Offline aldo_14

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Make 'em like a porcupine :)  Doesn't matter if the guns themselves are pish - just make sure there's lots of em with big flashy lights. :) ;7

 

Offline Trivial Psychic

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In the link were Woo posted the twin-bay Orion, I just posted a suggestion for a "Light" version of the Orion, with no fighter ramps at all, much like a ship where both sides look like the left side of a standard Orion.  There would however, be a small fighter bay (with no ramp) located on the belly, facing forward.  Something like this would have fewer fighters than the standard, so to compensate (assume T-V War Era) it would have some missile turrets... which is something I think the Orion on a whole, lacks.  The AAA and flak are alright for FS2 era, but before this all you got is heavy cannons with a much lower fire rate.  Complementing the addition of missile launchers, might even be mounts for conventional primary weapons, along the same lines as the 2 primary turrets on an Aten.  So in my view, assuming this isn't for FS2, leave the conventional Orion the way it is, or have a special variant of it with such additional weaponry, and also add the new weapons to the "Light" and twin-bay versions.  As far as FS2 era is concerned, I agree that switching the main beams to the dish style is better.

Later!
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Offline Knight Templar

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Sure, why not?
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Offline Taristin

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Quote
Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
a "Light" version of the Orion, with no fighter ramps at all, much like a ship where both sides look like the left side of a standard Orion.  Later!


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Offline Trivial Psychic

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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
You want a brick? :wtf:

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Later
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Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
In the link were Woo posted the twin-bay Orion, I just posted a suggestion for a "Light" version of the Orion, with no fighter ramps at all, much like a ship where both sides look like the left side of a standard Orion.  There would however, be a small fighter bay (with no ramp) located on the belly, facing forward.  Something like this would have fewer fighters than the standard, so to compensate (assume T-V War Era) it would have some missile turrets... which is something I think the Orion on a whole, lacks.  The AAA and flak are alright for FS2 era, but before this all you got is heavy cannons with a much lower fire rate.  Complementing the addition of missile launchers, might even be mounts for conventional primary weapons, along the same lines as the 2 primary turrets on an Aten.  So in my view, assuming this isn't for FS2, leave the conventional Orion the way it is, or have a special variant of it with such additional weaponry, and also add the new weapons to the "Light" and twin-bay versions.  As far as FS2 era is concerned, I agree that switching the main beams to the dish style is better.

Later!


sounds like the Reliant....

 

Offline Raptor

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Well, as most people are in favor, I'll make a start then.

I'll create one with the orginal number of turrets, and other with an upgraded number.  That will keep everyone happy:D
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Offline magatsu1

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I always thought an Orion was over-gunned (is that a real phrase ?) considering beams where retro-fitted.
Getting broad-sided from an Orion is pretty devastating, and more powerful than any Hecate, despite the Hecates being newer and presumeably designed to carry beams from the start.
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Offline Raptor

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Well, that depends on what grade of beams it has...;7

Oh and BTW, here's a WIP shot:



Havn't finished the texturing on the barrels.

It's kinda based on Ryx's uber high poly Orion turret.  It's got 228 polys total
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Offline Galemp

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Cool! :yes:

I'd make the base larger though; and use capital01-03b for the texture in the inside of the turret.
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Offline Raptor

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Larger: How, and were?  Do you mean the 'Circular' base?
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Offline Raptor

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More pics!

I also have a 'Destroyed' version of the new turret.


What would people prefer as the replacement?

A) a dome shape with a slight recess at the end
B) a standard flat plate type turret
or
C) a 'Darlek' gun ;)
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Offline Setekh

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Well, personally I'd leave the same number of turrets, but put AAA beams everywhere. :D
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Offline Taristin

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Darlek Turret! C C C C C C!!!

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Offline Knight Templar

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That new tri-turret rules dude. :yes:
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