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Offline Stunaep

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It's out. It's good. it's as short as the last one. Go!
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Offline pyro-manic

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What? Already? Oh well - more stuff to spend money on....
Any fool can pull a trigger...

 

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I'll be honest.  I didn't really like the first one all that much.  Better graphics or not, Film Noir does not translate well to a digital format.
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The age long strife I see
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man, Max Payne... great story. Great damn story. Such a shame they destroyed it by making it a bloody game.

Max Payne 2? Not even if you bought it for me.
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It was a film?
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Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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I assume it was a novel.

 

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It was some sort of strange hybrid. Film noir characters and setting, narrated through an illustrated novel, and carried through by run-and-gun action gameplay. Well, I enjoyed it (number 1, that is - not sure about the sequel, seems to me that the title is a bit too defeatist for my likings).
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Max Payne a great story? Eheheh. Heh heh heh heh heh.

You are aware that it was made to be intentionally bad, right? Please tell me you meant "good as in they made it suck nicely".

 

Offline Stunaep

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could you just stop arguing about the old ones, and get MP2. It's got bullet time, for pete's sake
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Offline Fury

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Finished the game yesterday. It's same as the prequel with better graphics and a new story. If you liked MP1, you like MP2. Otherwise, don't bother.

 
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I'll wait until the Kung Fu mods come out. They're always worth it.

 

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max payne 2 is pretty much the exact same game as max payne 1. instead of spending money on the new one, just play the first one again.
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Originally posted by Carl
max payne 2 is pretty much the exact same game as max payne 1. instead of spending money on the new one, just play the first one again.


That's a very dumb suggestion. :wtf: No offence, but I am gonna get this game to see how the new story develops.

 

Offline Stunaep

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Originally posted by Carl
max payne 2 is pretty much the exact same game as max payne 1. instead of spending money on the new one, just play the first one again.


Freespace 2 is pretty much the exact same game as Descent: Freespace. Instead of spending money on the new one, just play the first one again. :doubt:
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Offline Setekh

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Maybe if they put out a demo, I can play it next year. :D
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Offline Razor

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Freespace 2 is pretty much the exact same game as Descent: Freespace. Instead of spending money on the new one, just play the first one again. :doubt:


My point exactly. There must be something new added to MP2 to make it different from MP1. And i know that at least 1 thing is new and that is story. But I bet my money that there is a lot more new stuff like moves, Bullettime 2 new weapons new characters and all. So I don't see any GOOD reason to agree with Carl. :doubt: :rolleyes:

 

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Because FS2 had better effects and fancier ships and ****loads of new ships and weapons and had nebulas and didn't look like total ass when compared to everything else at the time and ****?

Just a random guess. MP2 uses effectively the same engine, with more or less the same sorts of things to shoot at, apparently the exact same AI, and the story was ass to begin with. The big difference? Now stuff breaks. Whee. I can get a better effect by going down to the junkyard with my sledgehammer.

 

Offline Bri_Dog

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What's the story in this one about? How does Max "fall"?

Spoil me damnit!
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Offline Stunaep

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Aside, of course, that the engine looks like the third best thing since Doom III, every game out there is pretty much some new scenery to shoot at and.... IT GOT ****ING 9.4 FROM IGN

Well, simply put:


Effectively same engine my ass.

Bri_dog - apparently Max "falls" in love
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Offline Stryke 9

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Stu: You are aware that it's ten to one you'll never see a scene that looks as good as a dev screenshot the entire time you play the game? I could show you shots from games that are five years old that make modern games look like ass. As a matter of fact, that one does a rather poor job of demonstrating your point, as it's pretty obvious that all that's there a low-poly environment with soft shadows and some very nice skins- which is nothing new, the original Max Payne did a great job with skinning, too, and shadowmaps (like **** that's raytraced) can be found in N64 games. Which is a good thing, too many games rely on pure quantity of polygons, but doesn't do anything to change the fact that there's nothing in that screenshot that's much at all different from what you coulda gotten three years ago- virtually everything but Max himself in the image is a cube (the pillars are chamfered, so really an extruded octagon there), and the character model wouldn't be more than about two hundred polys by the looks of it. Maybe, oh, 50% more model detail than the guys in Quake. One would think, on a 3d-art-intensive board as this one, you'd learn to see these things.

Also... IGN? You're joking, right? You think a positive IGN rating means anything at all? AH-HAH HA! AH-HAHAHA! Those corporate whore lackeys? You kill me! They ain't given anything under an 8 to anything they thought might sell well since the hottest game out there was Pong.

And he "falls" because a dramatic name'll sell well, even though he's basically still ****ed for life at the end of the first game.

Oh, and no. Many games actually implement what are called new "features", things like minigames or vehicle control or different styles of combat (though, sadly, the minigame has for the most part gone the way of the nonlinear plot). These are what are known as "innovative games" or just for short "good games". The original MP had, among a few other things, bullet time- this one has nothing to add.


If you like the game, want it, whatever, fine- that's subjective. Just don't lie to yourself and pretend that you're getting anything more than Max Payne: the Expansion Pack. For one thing, it'll make me unhappy because I don't like it when people get tricked into monetarily encouraging uncreative gamemaking- it's already ****ed up gaming in general enough, maybe one in fifty games actually isn't a graphically upgraded clone of something these days.
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