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Offline Antares

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Has anyone ever seen this page before?

http://www.brainzipper.com/fs2/notes/fs2_discrepancy.html

I stumbled upon this page several weeks ago--what exactly I was looking for at the time, I can't remember--and it reveals a number of interesting tidbits about FS2 missions that I'd wager most people aren't aware of.  Apparently, the author of the site peeks at the FRED coding of the retail missions and lists several discrepancies between the coding and what actually happens in each mission.  Among points of note:

1.  The SJ Sathanas appears to have been originally named the SJ Apocalypse, or some variant thereof.
2.  Moloch corvettes may have been intended to be introduced as early as the fourth mission in the FS2 campaign, "A Lion at the Door".
3.  The Colossus may have originally been written to confront the Iceni itself, and not the NTD Repulse.
4.  Several ship names were changed, apparently because they were difficult to pronounce.
5.  A possible debriefing for "Argonautica" mentions the appearance of a Shivan juggernaut in the mission, although to my knowledge, that never happens.
6.  An interesting note for "Clash of the Titans II" indicates that the Colossus might have originally been the ship intended to collapse the jump node, not the Bastion.
7.  The various "hidden" items that can be scanned upon transports in the final mission--"Apocalypse"--are listed.

I imagine some people have seen this stuff already, but I'm just throwing it out there for informational purposes.
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Offline Drew

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now we know what that dude does on friday nights :rolleyes:
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Offline Knight Templar

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That dude would be Sandwich. :p
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Offline Setekh

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Indeed, Antares - that page belongs to our very own admin, Sandwich. :)
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Worth pointing out though. Some people may have missed it :)
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Offline DragonClaw

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Originally posted by Drew
now we know what that dude does on friday nights :rolleyes:


You better hide ;7

 

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You know, now that it's brought up... the pattern of usage for "Moloch" as noted by Sandwich seems to point at a slightly different conclusion from the one that Sandwich states.  Since it is rather consistantly pointing at fighter wings, I would think that :V:'s original intention was to use Moloch as one of the stock designations for Shivan fighter wings.  This was later changed, either because of the introduction of the Moloch as we know it, or to achieve a more consistant, greco-roman system of wing designations.
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Offline Gloriano

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Originally posted by Drew
now we know what that dude does on friday nights :rolleyes:



:lol: :lol:
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Offline Sandwich

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*waves*

And what's all this "friday night" stuff?
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Offline Gloriano

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btw i ever dind't jnow those things (SJ Sathanas was SJ Apocalypse first
« Last Edit: October 24, 2003, 10:06:09 am by 153 »
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.- Nietzsche

When in despair I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won; there have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall.- Mahatma Gandhi

 

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H.I.G Meet sarcasm. Sarcasm meet H.I.G

Seems you two spend a lot of time in close proximity but have never been introduced
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Offline Gloriano

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« Last Edit: October 24, 2003, 09:54:09 am by 153 »
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.- Nietzsche

When in despair I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won; there have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall.- Mahatma Gandhi

 

Offline Drew

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hehe, so what do i get labeled as now? :rolleyes:

BTW
nice to meet you H.I.G ;)
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You really do have a lot of time on your hands, don't you sandwich?
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Offline Gloriano

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Originally posted by Drew
hehe, so what do i get labeled as now? :rolleyes:

BTW
nice to meet you H.I.G ;)


:wtf: :nervous:
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.- Nietzsche

When in despair I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won; there have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall.- Mahatma Gandhi

 

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Originally posted by Shrike
You really do have a lot of time on your hands, don't you sandwich?
That ain't time. :ick
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Offline Woolie Wool

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Originally posted by karajorma
H.I.G Meet sarcasm. Sarcasm meet H.I.G

Seems you two spend a lot of time in close proximity but have never been introduced


Why don't you introduce him to grammar first? He has no clue what we're saying.
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

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Offline Gloriano

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Originally posted by Woolie Wool


Why don't you introduce him to grammar first? He has no clue what we're saying.


:wtf: :mad2:
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.- Nietzsche

When in despair I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won; there have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall.- Mahatma Gandhi

 

Offline Woolie Wool

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You really misinterpreted the "friday nights" parts.
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

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Offline Gloriano

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So yes i did know what it meant just get over it
« Last Edit: October 24, 2003, 10:00:24 am by 153 »
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.- Nietzsche

When in despair I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won; there have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall.- Mahatma Gandhi