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Offline RandomTiger

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Reply #20 on: October 26, 2003, 08:38:37 pm
The current system is annoying but Im not sure it needs to be re-writen for thar reason. What you are talking about is possible (I think) given the way my TGA, JPG code can scale and the fact that the mode code stretchs whatever it is given to fill the screen.

THe need for a re-write would be to allow custom positioning of interface art.
 

Offline Trivial Psychic

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Reply #21 on: October 26, 2003, 09:18:05 pm
I would like to take this oppertunity to once again bring up my wish to allow the escort list to display more than 3 ships.  With the extra space afforded by using higher screen settings you could expand many of the things like the directives listing, weapons display, possibly including a later HUD icon for tertiary systems (now there's something I haven't heard about in a while), extra space for the ETS if cloaking ever becomes fully functional... I think that's all I can come up with on that front.

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Offline Goober5000

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Reply #22 on: October 26, 2003, 10:44:42 pm
No. :p
 

Offline KARMA

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Reply #23 on: October 27, 2003, 04:21:09 am
RT, with a whole new interface you could have some mods -mostly babylon project and SW conversion (eventual (C) problems will come from the reference universe, and not from the support)- released as standalone games...
 

Offline Setekh

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Reply #24 on: October 27, 2003, 04:23:22 am
Cutdown, no question.
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Reply #25 on: October 27, 2003, 08:38:04 am
I vote cutdown.  

Thats the standard fare when using bitmap based images.  You always go from a larger size and scale downwards although I do understand there would be similar memory requirements from 800x600 to 1024.
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Offline Woolie Wool

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Reply #26 on: October 27, 2003, 10:49:32 am
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Originally posted by Bobboau
the whole hud system needs to be overhauled anyway, I recomend a table that has the relitive (0.0 to 1.0) x and y locations for the upper left and lower right corner of each guage, then it's just a mater of telling the table to use a higher resolution graphic, I say we stop trying to use diferent graphics based on resolution, if you have the high resolution art that'll get used if not, then the low res stuff gets used (with what I'm thinking two seperate hud tables would be likely needed)


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Offline kasperl

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Reply #27 on: October 27, 2003, 11:26:27 am
/me likes Bob's thing
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Offline RandomTiger

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Reply #28 on: October 27, 2003, 12:37:07 pm
Ah... no one listens, anyway...

Just to let you know the res stuff has taken a few steps forward, its almost usable.
Heres a list of things still wrong, add to it if you spot anything else:

Version string in player select and main hall
Help text in main hall not centered horizontally
Buttons at offset of one pixel
Dot sliders work two to the left of what they should do in option screen
Credit text offset
Briefing tactical display icons offset
Font texture wrapping in some characters
Main hall ani's and background dont match by a pixel or two.

Exe up
 

Offline Falcon

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Reply #29 on: October 27, 2003, 06:30:44 pm
I got up to 1600x1200:D All I can say is no more jagged edges.
About the interface... If you got a group of people you could divide up the images among them taking less time in my opinion.

1278 interface images in sparky_hi for example divided up between 10 people would mean 127.8 images for each person. You can fight over the .2 yourselves.
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Reply #30 on: October 27, 2003, 10:17:40 pm
1278 divided by 10 is 127.8... :wtf: :lol:
 

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Reply #31 on: October 27, 2003, 11:33:11 pm
I think he got that two in the thing and got it al no right
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Reply #32 on: November 02, 2003, 06:11:31 am
As for the in-mission HUD itself, would it not be best to specify for each element its location in pixels relative to the corner of choice? That way you would not need any modifications on the graphics files no matter what resolution you used; the targeting box would always be at 0,0 from the bottom left corner, the targeting reticle would always be at 0.5,0.5 from any corner, etc. Sure, as the resolution increased the HUD elements would get smaller, but it also would block less of the ever-increasingly-good-looking rendering engine itself. :D
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Offline aldo_14

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Reply #33 on: November 02, 2003, 01:58:06 pm
Would be nice to allow HUd or even interface to be specified in an XML or even HTML-esque manner.  I'd imagine it;d be enormously painful to implement, though.
 

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Reply #34 on: November 02, 2003, 04:25:37 pm
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Would be nice to allow HUd or even interface to be specified in an XML or even HTML-esque manner.  I'd imagine it;d be enormously painful to implement, though.


A .tbl file, perhaps? ;)
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Offline Setekh

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Reply #35 on: November 04, 2003, 01:42:25 am
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Would be nice to allow HUd or even interface to be specified in an XML or even HTML-esque manner.  I'd imagine it;d be enormously painful to implement, though.


You could HTML code your HUD. :) We could even insert a frame so you can keep an eye on the HLP Forums while you're hanging out with Snipes on an SOC mission. :D
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #36 on: November 04, 2003, 10:52:06 am
that would be somewhat fun, and perhaps even usefull for things like scores and stuff for FW, but really, it sounds a tad OTT.
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Reply #37 on: November 04, 2003, 11:33:29 am
Hey, where'd all my OT posts go??
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Reply #38 on: November 04, 2003, 12:03:21 pm
They were treated to their very own thread. ;)
 

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Reply #39 on: November 04, 2003, 12:29:01 pm
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No. :p


LOL

Is there an order to list Escorts by Hull strength and alignment, so the most damaged friendly Escort is shown first?

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