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Offline FreeTerran

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Offline 01010

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Originally posted by Zarax
Damn, it's time to end all this anti Microsoft policy...
Personally, after seeing how much worser was the alternative to Windows (IBM OS was and is just pure crap) i thank Bill Gates every time i place my hands on Windows XP... Anyways, to go back into the topic MS isn't going to buy google, it's improving MSN instead... And since they can spend much more money in development, i wouldn't be surprised if it will surpass google...
For those which blindly hates Microsoft, look at how most competitors are trying to save her ass with Internet Explorer right now, they know that they will never be able to deploy something capable to replace it, so that they're putting pressure on doj to revoke eolas patent suit, as hurting the de facto standard would be hurting everyone.


I don't think you can really better google because the best thing about it is that it's a search engine and nothing more, it doesn't try to be a content provider, it doesn't try to "tailor your web browsing experience" to whatever it assumes you like, it's a search engine that does the job incredibly well.

Which is what most people want, same with Winamp 2, I want a music player that I can add different components too, without it already being bloated from the initial install. Unlike winamp 3, which is ass.

As for all the Anti MS bull****, I'm not pro or anti any company because I figure they're "evil", I'll judge a company that manufactures a product on the product they sell and the service they provide in supporting that product. I've never had a truly bad experience with a MS product that wasn't an operating system and I actually REALLY like a lot of MS hardware (intellimouse is nice, sidewinder 2 joystick is nice, never had a problem with my Xbox or any of it's peripherals).

Personally, if Linux had anything approaching (what I would deem) decent support for games I'd be all over it like a rash, but until that day I'm stuck with buggy hole ridden bloat ware.
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Offline IceFire

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Originally posted by Zarax
Damn, it's time to end all this anti Microsoft policy...
Personally, after seeing how much worser was the alternative to Windows (IBM OS was and is just pure crap) i thank Bill Gates every time i place my hands on Windows XP... Anyways, to go back into the topic MS isn't going to buy google, it's improving MSN instead... And since they can spend much more money in development, i wouldn't be surprised if it will surpass google...
For those which blindly hates Microsoft, look at how most competitors are trying to save her ass with Internet Explorer right now, they know that they will never be able to deploy something capable to replace it, so that they're putting pressure on doj to revoke eolas patent suit, as hurting the de facto standard would be hurting everyone.

What anti-Microsoft policy....there is no anti-Microsoft policy anywhere here.  What you DO see is alot of opposition to an increasingly large monopoly where the other players no longer become a voice, a single company controls everything, there is no innovation, prices are high, and you no longer have control of your own intellectual property - its Microsofts because they "allow" you to use it.

I agree. Windows XP is the best they have done for home computer use.  Its much better.  Due in part to competition from other companies.

I own a Sidewiner Precision 2 and a MS Keyboard and an earlier version of the Intellimouse with optical sensors.  I like those products, I bought them willingly because they were good.  But I'd be annoyed if they were my only option.

If what MS plans to do in the next 6 years happens, stuff like SCP can be kissed goodbye because we (others) aren't going to pay big bucks for Microsoft to say it is and thus it'd be consigned to being considered illegitimate.

Imagine game MOD's being made impossible because Microsoft says we can't.  In a monopoly/dictatorship like that, it could very well happen.
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Offline aldo_14

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I don;t trust MS because they're a monopoly, and the less competition a company has, the less pressure there is on them is to improve their products.  And a lot of the stuff Ms does (like their moves to integrate Windows in BIOS, for example) is solely to maintain that monopoly.

And MS' interests are not the same as ours - we want cheap, effective software.  they want money, and that means continously 'refreshing' their product line, and flashy marketing.  

Unfortunately, it's not just MS - they're just the biggest company doing it at the mo.  Look at the Intel centrino adverts for an example of marketing with no basis in fact.

 

Offline Odyssey

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Damn, it's time to end all this anti Microsoft policy...
Personally, after seeing how much worser was the alternative to Windows (IBM OS was and is just pure crap) i thank Bill Gates every time i place my hands on Windows XP...

I take it you've never heard of Linux (any variety), FreeBSD (or any other BSD), etc... IBM OS was a long time back. From my experience with WinXP Home, on a Sony laptop my dad owns (hence, pre-configured and everything, ought to have no hardware problems), it periodically forgets it has different things. e.g. sound goes. Sound is fixed, CD/DVD goes. etc... I've never had any problems like that with Linux or FreeBSD. It just works. And, both of the alternatives I've mentioned are one hell of a lot faster than Windows XP - they're not just a load of crummy graphics to make people go 'ooo, pretty'.

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And since they can spend much more money in development, i wouldn't be surprised if it will surpass google...

Ehh... Yeah, sure, you've just pointed out one of Microsoft's flaws. They just throw money and deadlines at things, and expect them to turn out okay. The open source community works for nothing. And look where it got them - now we've got excellent alternative OSes.

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For those which blindly hates Microsoft, look at how most competitors are trying to save her ass with Internet Explorer right now, they know that they will never be able to deploy something capable to replace it, so that they're putting pressure on doj to revoke eolas patent suit, as hurting the de facto standard would be hurting everyone.

Firstly, the only competitor I know of using Internet Explorer is Apple. And that's because Apple is doing anything it can to make transition easier from Windows to Mac.
Second, what do you mean, nothing capable to replace it? Mozilla, Opera, Mozilla Firebird, want me to continue? I never touch IE unless forced to by a website.
Finally, your usage of 'de facto standard' is a little unclear. If you mean it as 'the thing everyone has got', then sure. Because everyone, like you apparently, doesn't realise there are plenty of perfectly good alternatives.  If by 'de facto standard' you mean 'handles HTML properly', you are sadly mistaken. IE couldn't be much further from W3C standard HTML, and it makes coding websites a nightmare.

EDIT: Hey, Zarax, do you by any chance work for Microsoft? It's just this 'Location: Redmond', and 'Microsoft User Network' stuff.
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Offline Stryke 9

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Meh. Microsoft's an extremely minor evil compared to many, if not most, on the national scale. Here we have a president whose campaign is planned to hinge on homophobic propoganda, and we're worrying about a corporation that does what corporations do. They don't do the best programming in the world, but... hell, Disney leaves MS behind when it comes to cutthroat business tactics.

All the problems with Microsoft are the precise same ones you see in any large corporation- stagnation, bureaucracy, the prevailing idea that some shiny new interface graphics are a far preferable alternative to increased functionality, impersonality, and inefficiency on a massive scale. Apple, for example, is very much the same. Linux, in all of its distros, has its own problems related to small groups of people (i.e. arcane interfacing functions, generally a few more bugs, limited availability and extremely short list of options for what to do with it, etc.). But you don't see anyone complaining about them. Why? Because Microsoft is a celebrity. Everyone knows about it, everyone has some (at least imagined) relationship to it, it's percieved as the "big dog", and our culture has this rather foolish ingrained belief that anything but the one on top is some embattled, idealistic rebel minority fighting for truth and justice and rainbows and puppy dogs and so on, while those who are percieved to have power are some ominous, actively malevolent group bent on destroying the Universe for no apparent reason. Like the entire universe operates like Star Wars. And, though that is often the case in real life (i.e. at any point ever in the entire history of politics, no matter who was playing which role), that doesn't mean it can just be applied at first glance to every situation ever. All those little corporations you see, given half a chance, would be every bit as mercenary and monopolistic as Microsoft- in fact, they try damn hard. MS happens to be it at the moment, but it won't always be, and in the meantime it's handy to have around.

 

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Stryke, you are indeed right that Microsoft is a target because its the celebrity of the bunch, the guy at the top, and the easiest target to hit.  Every else is percieved as the rebel with a good cause.

But its a bit of a regulatory system isn't it...the one at the top with the lionshare of the power is the target of everyone else.  If the king falls, another takes its place...in that struggle we see innovation and progress.  Another one takes the kingship for a bit before it too falls again replaced by another and another.

Humans have a propensity for creating self destructive systems encompassed within larger ones.  All that we can be sure of is change...at least with Linux and others challenging the status quo...there is a good possibility of that.
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I wouldn't mind if Microsoft was extremely powerful, as long as there was another company competing with it. Right now, Microsoft has no competition (not enough to do any good anyways) and is just barely staying on the good side of the law.

As for Internet Explorer being the de facto standard, that's a load of bull****. Most computer users (ones that don't know what they're doing ) use it because it's there, prepackaged with windows, not because it's the best browser. I hate microsoft not because they're the big dogs on the block, but because they're power hungry. Like I've said, if they had any good competition (well...they did...but they crushed it with their POS software because people didn't know any better) then I'm sure their crap would be ok.

I have to admit windows XP is a pretty good operating system, although it's still a piece of crap compared to FREE operating systems. Windows is the best for computer gaming not because it is a good operating system, but because they're such a big corporation that they practically control the game companies...Now that fs2 has been ported to OS X, I'm seriously thinking about getting a Mac.

 

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Oh yeah, if there was an equally big company in the OS/software market like Microsoft, then the situation would be much better.  There would be push between the two....fighting over market share and gaining and loosing based on the users.

Thats what democracy is about.
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I think I mis-expressed myself, I don't want another Microsoft competing with the current one, that would be twice as bad.:)

Rather two or more smaller companies competing would probably produce some better software.

And sure any company would be as bloodthirsty as Microsoft if they were in their position, and that is just one thing I don't like about today's society, nothing I can do about it.:)

 

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As per Intel and AMD... well, AMD's getting there. :)
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Offline diamondgeezer

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now the Gamecube controller, THAT is a travesty, whoever invented that piece of crap has hands the size of a fifty pence piece and incredibly poor eyesight considering they give you all of two inches of cable to work with.

I'm not dignifying that with an answer. Well, except to say that I got F-Zero GX yesterday and it pwnz everything else.