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Offline Setekh

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Nope. Light reflection is, at the quantum level, an interaction between photons and electrons. No electrons, no photonic reactions.


You beat me to it. If the collapsed-core molybdenum is as you describe it, Ace, it's not going to reflect very much at all. :)
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But even the most matte object is going to have a brighter side when a light is shone off of it, compared to it's other sides that are not illunminated by a light.  So shiny or not, mirror-like or dirt like, an object is going to show some sort of difference when light is on it than when there isn't one.
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If it would be realistic, most normal objects in space would only have a black side, and a white side (solid white, solid black), but if FS2 armour is really made of that 'collapsed-core molybdenum' you describe there, you have a highly explosive and reactive material for your armour. I would not like to sit in anything made of this :wtf:
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Actually, if it was as Ace described, and all you had was a bunch of degenerate matter, you would have either an invisible hull that showed through to whatever was inside since there would be nothing to absorb (and thus prevent penetration) by photons.  Unless the hull was so dense that photons simply bounced back or are somehow dissipated, in which case you'd either have a true mirror or a completely unlit surface even in direct sunlight.  It's sort of hard to picture the quantum interaction when effectively no electrons are present.
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I would expect death black, StratComm, not transparent.
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I know, I'm just looking at it from a strictly quantum level.  At any rate, it's wouldn't be true matte either I don't think.  Hard to say exactly, though I'd imagine the effectiveness of the compacting procedure would have some bearing on that.
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Of course its 'true matter'. The neutronium of neutron stars is true matter, so this would be true matter as well. You could call it degenerate matter I guess, but I would think that would be a misnomer, really.
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whatever it is, it would not be very stable, and the pilot would be dead in a matter of seconds :p

Neutron Stars are very unstable things - they have an immense density and lots neutrons explode out of them at very high velocity - this will create VERY, VERY strong radiation.

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and lol, the ships would attract planets... ROFL :D
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I would expect death black, StratComm, not transparent.

*cough* "they had those death black ships" *cough*
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whatever it is, it would not be very stable, and the pilot would be dead in a matter of seconds :p

Neutron Stars are very unstable things - they have an immense density and lots neutrons explode out of them at very high velocity - this will create VERY, VERY strong radiation.

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and lol, the ships would attract planets... ROFL :D


Unstable, absolutely. Attract planets? no. We're not talking about neutronium here. If we were, the pilots would be crushed to death and the Orion would fold in on itself when a fighter docked. By collapsed core, I suspect they just mean a bunch of molybdenum nuclei forced into artificial proximity, stripped of their electron shells. That would make it awfully reactive (ablative perhaps?) but certainly not ultra massy like neutronium.


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Lol, I missed a word or two in my last post.  What I meant to say was that any matter without its electrons would not react to light like "normal matter" with its electrons.  I don't know how it would act, but it seems that without the electron shell light would simply not interact with the matter.  If it is dense enough, then I don't know what would happen; if it is only marginally denser than uncompressed matter then light would pass through it unimpeded.  However, it lets us have justifiable "death black" ships, ah-la FS1-intro shivans.
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Unstable, absolutely. Attract planets? no. We're not talking about neutronium here. If we were, the pilots would be crushed to death and the Orion would fold in on itself when a fighter docked. By collapsed core, I suspect they just mean a bunch of molybdenum nuclei forced into artificial proximity, stripped of their electron shells. That would make it awfully reactive (ablative perhaps?) but certainly not ultra massy like neutronium.


where do they get the power from to force them to artificial proximity, let alone stripping them of their electron shells? If is not neutronium you'd need to keep it 'stable' on its current state (since if you create an artifical proximity with charged matter (you still have protons, but the electrons are gone) it will not be very durable since they push away each other, unless you have neutronium where the mass is so big that they are held together by mass) that you would need your own sun mounted on the fighter, and even that might not be enough.
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Argo Shinemaps :)

note: you need other shinemap sets in order to have every map used by the Argo

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I've got the whole day free, so expect to see more soon :D
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Huzzah. ;) Another update on how many you've got left?
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look at the first post in this thread :)
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GTI Ganymede Shinemaps + Colossus Update


Ganymede shinemaps :)
includes an updated version of one shinemap also used by the Colossus.

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:eek2:  two release posts right next to each other :nervous:



Here's the cargo pods, for those Deus Ex Machina players out there :D

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note that this will be one of the last shinemap sets (maybe the last one, even) in this thread, so if you only want specific shinemaps the best time to get them is now, since soon there will be only the full pack ;)
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Hmmm, the top and bottom of the Vasudan container look like army camouflage.
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is that a problem? i doubt all the scales would be the same colour
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It's like that in the original texture, too ;)
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