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Offline Beowulf

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Reply #20 on: November 14, 2003, 03:05:52 pm
Well, go figure, their compatability support tool is on the service pack cd.

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Offline Beowulf

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Reply #21 on: November 14, 2003, 03:11:53 pm
Well, installed the thing compatability tool on my computer, now I can use Win98....


:mad: :mad: :mad:

care to guess if it works or not?!!! :mad2:
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Offline Kosh

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Reply #22 on: November 14, 2003, 08:24:05 pm
I was completely unaware that Windows 2000 had a compatibility mode. I know that it automaticly emulates the 16 bit code in 9x only stuff, but thats about it as far as I know.

Let me guess: It doesn't work?
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Offline Flaser

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Reply #23 on: November 15, 2003, 06:14:21 am
It works perfectly under my Windows 2000 so there has to be smg. other than the OS itself that causes the problem.

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W2k Pro - no SP
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Offline karajorma

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Reply #24 on: November 15, 2003, 07:03:59 am
The fact that the bug only appeared recently and until this case only on XP makes me believe that something has been updated that is causing the problem on some machines.
 Maybe it's not the OS itself but an OS specific update (eg. XP versions of detonator or catalyst drivers) but there is something weird about a a bug that has never occured before suddenly appearing 6 or 7 times within the space of 5-6 months when it has never occured before in 5 years.
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Offline Setekh

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Reply #25 on: November 15, 2003, 07:37:33 am
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Originally posted by Admiral Nelson

Hi folks,
I'd like to report that I have the identical problem. Pressing either the joystick afterburner button or the tab key just plays the afterburner shutdown noise. I notice if I am stopped, holding the button down will increase the throttle, but the afterburner never comes on.
Windows 2000 SP4
P4 2.8 GHz
1 GB RAM
ATI 9800 Pro

To the point about the shortcut -- when I start FS2 I am actually starting the launcher and not Freespace itself. I presume to set the compatibility properties of the shortcut to the FS2 exe itself, I would need to be able to figure out what command line the launcher concatenates together.

Thank you for any advice or help!!


Welcome to HLP, Admiral. :) Great to have you here - anyway, to solve your problem, just follow IceFire's step-by-step. Basically, your important step is that you have to make a shortcut to fs2.exe rather than freespace2.exe.

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Offline Admiral Nelson

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Reply #26 on: November 15, 2003, 08:42:41 am
Thanks for the welcome!
There is no compatability tab in Win 2k, so I can't follow icefire's instructions. Beowulf implies that getting the compatability tool did not help.

I have patched Win2k to the latest level, SP4 with all security hotfixes installed. I'm running the Catalyst 3.7 drivers. The joystick is an MS Sidewinder FF 2. Note that the tab key doesn't work either.

I wonder, is the I/O code in FSO still old DX 5 stuff? Is that possibly the source of the trouble?
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Offline Setekh

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Reply #27 on: November 15, 2003, 08:46:39 am
If you're using 3.5.5, you should have the option of using DX8 in the Launcher. See if that helps. :)
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Offline Admiral Nelson

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Reply #28 on: November 16, 2003, 10:36:32 am
Oh, but I _am_ using DX8 in the launcher! My question was more one of although the _graphics_ code has been update to DX 8.1 has the _I/O_ code changed from what was in the original release ages ago? It's just a suspicion that some of that DX 5 code has become deprecated or broken in updated operating systems. Has anyone ever looked at that code?
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Offline Beowulf

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Reply #29 on: November 19, 2003, 07:12:56 pm
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Offline RandomTiger

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Reply #30 on: November 19, 2003, 07:40:16 pm
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Originally posted by Admiral Nelson
It's just a suspicion that some of that DX 5 code has become deprecated or broken in updated operating systems. Has anyone ever looked at that code?


Its not even DX5, its old windows code.
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