[Alikchi]

Yes. See diamondgeezer's post. Gotta believe in SOMETHING, right?

[IceFire]

I think as we further understand our solar system and explore others, we'll find a universe full of life.  Most of it will probably be bacteria (which BTW on Earth can be found in every form of environment including in magma and at in the radiation rich cores of nuclear reactors).  Nasa is looking to expand the so called 'life zone' of solar systems because their previous data has been invalidated by many forms of life discovered more recently.

So with the possibility that life is potentially growing in places we thought were impossible, it makes it all the more likely that there are places where more complex life has, might, and does exist.  I'd further surmise that for every place in the universe where species exist that can manipulate tools and have sufficient capacity to communicate (verbally or otherwise) you'll find civilizations springing up.

I hardly think that human intelligence is a galatic accident or anomaly.  Its bound to happen again...

[Stealth]

:wtf:I missed that part.

Now where in the bible would that be?

yeah there's a book i bought and read about 6 years ago called "The Bible Code"... it's basically all the original text, when placed out, there's lines that spell out stuff, like "Prime Minister Assasinated" and then if you keep going it gives a date and stuff... and so far everything's come true.

although i think that, if you look close enough, you can find a 'prophecy' on practically anything.  I don't think the "Bible Code" is accurate, because it's an attempt by man to get 'hidden messages' out of the Bible...

[Rictor]

Now you're getting into the theory of time travel, and thats a whole other subject from the existance of aliens. Without actually knowing any of them, I think that most of those predictions are vague enough to be interpreted as the reader sees fit.

Does the de-coding of the codes use a consistant set of rules, or do they vary? If its the latter, than I think that its just people looking too hard to find non-existant messages.

[Solatar]

I read that page and found it quite interesting. Not that my views are much changed by it, but it was an interesting read.

[Shrike]

Redheads are proof that God can't decide if he hates us or loves us.

What does that have to do with aliens?  Not sure.

[Bobboau]

the bible codes are sort of interesting in a mathmatical sence that if you get enough text put into a certan arangement you can get all sorts of interesting combiations of words, they have found similar 'predictions' (odd that all of these predictions are found only after the events ocur) in many other books, like 'War and Peace' and 'Moby Dick'
it is a very interesting phenominon

oh, and aliens do exsist

[Sheepy]

yes, becuase they anal probed me .... or was that my dad?

[mikhael]

Aliens exist. Near us? Doubtful.

[icespeed]

so... aliens are like extraterrestrial life, right?

so someone define life for me.

[Gloriano]

i think aliens exist very far a way but dunno

[an0n]

Firstly: If some guy was smart enough to crack the code, some guy woulds been able to make the code.

Originally posted by Bobboau
the bible codes are sort of interesting in a mathmatical sence that if you get enough text put into a certan arangement you can get all sorts of interesting combiations of words, they have found similar 'predictions' (odd that all of these predictions are found only after the events ocur) in many other books, like 'War and Peace' and 'Moby Dick'
it is a very interesting phenominon

oh, and aliens do exsist

Secondly: Precisely. It's like when you're doing a word-search and come across 'gimp' or 'puff'. If you jumble enough crap together you'll get something out of it.

Like if you took every element on Earth and jumbled them all together and heated them and boiled them and split them and combined them, eventually you'd get a chunk of diamond in there somewhere.

And even if they were done by God, what would be the point? "Wow! Look, God predicted the first human flight", so? And? Therefore?

Also, I'm presuming that these miraculous words that appear are in Aramaic, otherwise this whole argument dissolves.

[Bobboau]

a) the decifering of te codes was only through use of some computer program, I don't think anyone has done it all by hand, and
b) I don't care how smart you are if you don't know what's going to happen you can't encode it, so the guy who made the codes would have not only had to have had access to a computer but also a time machine

actualy there suposedly in hebrew
though somehow they predicted the columbia crash and many other modern things, and I don't know how the anchent hewbrew would have a word for space shuttle

the way the whole thing works I beleve is basicly you use a program torearange the words/letters in the bible into what looks like a word find puzzle and the way it predicts things is you will find words that are assosiated with some important word about a major world event in close proximity to it, of corse you are looking only for words wich have relevence so it makes sence that you would find them

[an0n]

It was probably something like "The big car that flies in the sky and is named after a country will crash".

Show me where it says "A guy called Hitler will try to conquer the world and kill the Jews" and then I'll believe.

Hell, even Nostradamoususdmsasous managed that much.

[Bobboau]

they had a word for car

well it has like hitler, and death and a whole bunch of other words related to him, the holocost and WW2 around his name,

[TopAce]

Aliens existed, Aliens exist and Aliens will exist unless we annihilate them all.

[Ulala]

Depends what you would call alien. If "alien" means "bacteria growing under ice on Jupiter's 3rd moon" or whatever, then sure, there's aliens. However, if "alien" means "technologically advanced civilizaiton that will invade and destroy us someday", then no, they do not exist. Any civilization for that matter. IMHO, God didn't create aliens simply because He never refers to them and they are never referred to by anybody in the Bible. I suppose I could be wrong, so I'll have to ask him later. This is my opinion, in no way am I trying to "force my beliefs" on anyone.

[DeepSpace9er]

I dont believe in aliens because, for example, a planet similar to ours capable of sustaining basic life must exist other than ours. But ours is such that if the Earth were any larger and the moon at any different location than it is now or a different size, this planet would not be capable of sustaining life due to tectonic instabilities, gravity problems etc.

As for a species evoling from bacteria on mars or Jupiter is bogus... the universe is constantly decaying, example the sun slowly burning out, the earths magnetic field reducing significantly every thousand years, so how could something already in decay and decline, magically transform it from a static lifeform to a self-aware lifeform? And dont give me this we evoled so they must have evolved bull****... evolution is a theory... a far fetched theory at that, but still a theory, nothing more.

[Taristin]

Roswell?


www.despair.com/ambition.html

[Taristin]

Originally posted by DeepSpace9er

 And dont give me this we evoled so they must have evolved bull****... evolution is a theory... a far fetched theory at that, but still a theory, nothing more.

Bold, considerring creation is even more far fetched...