[Woolie Wool]

Originally posted by an0n
Dayum!

Frah mah hahd!:p

[Kazan]

Ship.Sexy()

[Nico]

Originally posted by diamondgeezer

Now, Mr Bobbau, if the turret code is too horrendous to fiddle with (and I won't questiuon your assesment), could you at least make turret fire impact the hull of its parent ship? ANYTHING to stop turret fire comming at you through the hull of your target...

yeah on that, but does not let it make damage if it happens, tho.

About the turret code pb, btw:
That's something that kinds of worries me about the SCP's way of doing things: sounds to me like you're avoiding all the large pbs coz they're difficult to fix. Sounds like you're too busy laying fresh paint on that broken car, if you know what I mean.
Isn't it possible to strip off all that ugly turret code, reorganize it and put in back in a cleaner way?
I think the very first endeavour the SCP dudes should have started, before everything else, was the Great Spring Cleansing.

[KARMA]

If I correctly understood, I think nico that the problem is that "cleaning" the code isn't that easy, because you can find functions of the turret code here and there, and many functions are connected with other parts of the code here and there. As result, it is incredibly difficult to track all the turret code and all the code that will be affected by it.
Unless you want to rewrite a good part of the code in a little more organized way
BTW I think that althought difficult, some modifications will be necessary, at a certain point

[Kazan]

cleaning up the origional FS2 code base isn't "difficult" it's downright IMPOSSIBLE

V used ****ing GOTOs and non-localized variables,etc

the only way to fix some of the fundamental bug is not to - don't fix, rewrite the entire engine from the _ground_ _up_

[/me hmms... and considers]

[aldo_14]

I can tell you now that the first sacrifice of coding to a deadline is cleanliness - it's all very nice having a well planned system, with nice hierarchy, design patterns, encapsulation, etc - but after about an hour of coding you'll find youreslf having to squash in some specific optimisations, or adding specific case checks into general case methods, or plain ;fudging' for effect.  

And i'm talking about a system that is miniscule in comparison to the FS2 codebase, and which uses (at least) OO functionality..... any large scale system will - unless given inifintie time and budget - degenerate into alphabetti spaghetti.

Sure it'd be nice to have a dedicated framework with nicely defined hotspots, etc, but we don;t have it and never will.  some things just can't be done, and people have just got to accept it..

[Zeon]

Please let me know when this monster is ready for downloading cause I want it for some mods I could come up with. Its just so massively big and beatiful.

[Lynx]

Here's the (almost) ready version of the Gettysburg!

[TrashMan]

Me LIKES!:yes:

[c914]

very nice model and texsturing:nod:

[Ashrak]

cool but can you make the turrets ontop of the nose 2 or 3 barreled?

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Ashrak
cool but can you make the turrets ontop of the nose 2 or 3 barreled?

They may be 2 barreled already. Look closely at the untextured pics.

[aldo_14]

3 barrelled - you can see in the middle pic.

[karajorma]

You must have better eyes than me

Ohhh. 4500 posts. I missed 4000 so I'm glad I caught this one

[WMCoolmon]

Very cool.

[Nuclear1]

Very. Damn. Sexy. Nice.

[GT-Keravnos]

Good god ALMIGHTY!

I have dreams about this ship already. Couldn't believe it would turn out THIS beautiful.

I also stand by my pledge. You release it, I will make a campaing out of it. (FO'REAL!!!)

[Lynx]

Now I hope it works ingame. Since i hate using tiling textures only since that the perfect way to make even the prettiest ship ugly unless the model itself is rather high detailed, I always put some individual textures on the capships to, like the windows or the red stripes here. Burt apparently it's too much textures for HTL. None of my ships have over 20 or so textures, but it still seems to be too much for HTL. Hmmm...

[Tolwyn]

it is a perfect example of codding that forces us to remake certain capital ships. I dunno why they codded htl mode this way, surely not to give us additional work

[Lynx]

I didn't even used that much individual texture maps on my ships; it's three or four, maximal. The rest is just a different amount of tiling textures. Darn...