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Offline Taristin

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
Looky at this, guys:

Anuket (Yes, I know, I am obsessed):



That's in the Techroom.  Setekh wanted a better in game shot last time, so here it is (Ignore the FPS, my PC is slow and underpowered, most people should get atleast 20 here) :





Now to find the glowmaps I had...
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Offline karajorma

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
That is a thing of beauty. No doubt about it.

We should use that shot to pimp FS2 when we make the download version available.
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Offline Taristin

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
Oddly enough, I just noticed I had no shields. I wonder why...
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Offline Bobboau

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
have you tryed that technology test build, it has truevission wich will auto-magicly smooth the geometry out on the video card (if you have a radeon) I don't know what it will do on cards that don't suport it
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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
If you smooth that any more, it'll be too slippery to land on! ;)

 

Offline Bobboau

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
I meant use the origonal model, I think the way truevision works would make it actualy look better
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Offline Taristin

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
Sorry, I have a GeForce 2 PCI...

And I realized why I had no shields, silly me. :)

I didin't DL the tech test build, because I don't have a Radeon anymore...
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Offline Bobboau

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
give it a shot, the worse that could hapen is it could cause you'r card to explode and wipening you'r hard drive clean, and starting a fire that kills you your famly and any people in the general vasinity of your house
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Offline RandomTiger

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
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Originally posted by Bobboau
have you tryed that technology test build, it has truevission wich will auto-magicly smooth the geometry out on the video card (if you have a radeon) I don't know what it will do on cards that don't suport it


I wonder if we could find out more about how they do it *, then we could replicate it for all cards. Is there a technique name?

* not on the fly in hardware but at load time.

 

Offline Taristin

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
Ok, it no do nothing. Actually, it makes the game run slower, and choppier...
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Offline Bobboau

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
you see no diference in the apearence of the ships, if your useing the high poly version of the Anuket then no I wouldn't expect any diference in it's apearence, but the low poly version and all of the other ships should look better

(I'm assuming by the "it runs slower" coment as an indication that the feature is being emulated)
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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
Dear God indeed... :eek2:

Now, what we need to do is figure out how to get the overexposure effects working with the gas chamber. :D
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Offline Fry_Day

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
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Originally posted by RandomTiger


I wonder if we could find out more about how they do it *, then we could replicate it for all cards. Is there a technique name?

* not on the fly in hardware but at load time.

Simple geometry enhancement isn't too complex - they subdivide every triangle, and perturb the subdivision points by the weighted normal at that point. Think of it as drawing the surface with Bezier curves instead of a flat polygon, with the vertices being the control points and the normals being the direction vectors. For explanation on Bezier Curves, go over to http://freespace.virgin.net/hugo.elias/graphics/x_bezier.htm

I know there's probably a formal name to it, but most of my knowledge isn't formal, rather all kinds of snippets I seem to gather over time.

 

Offline Lightspeed

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
hmm nice indeed ... I can't see any difference in textures, and the mesh seems only slightly clearer. How much extra polies does it use?
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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
A lot :)

 

Offline Bobboau

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
if I remember corectly ~15000
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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
wow!:eek2:
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Offline Taristin

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
you see no diference in the apearence of the ships, if your useing the high poly version of the Anuket then no I wouldn't expect any diference in it's apearence, but the low poly version and all of the other ships should look better

(I'm assuming by the "it runs slower" coment as an indication that the feature is being emulated)


:wtf:
I didn't use the low poly Anuket model. Nothing would happen to it besides spec and glow mapping.

Why would a GeForce card respond to Radeon coding? None of the ships looked different, at all when I ran the radeon coded program. And by "it ran slower" I mean that when models loaded in the tech room, anything larger than a sobek didn't rotate like it should, but ticked like the second hand of a clock.  Clearer?


And Lightspeed... Don't start again with the "I see no difference from the original" stuff. It is clearly smoother, and more streamlined... Even if the model uses more polies than it should, it's not meant to be used in a real mission...
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Offline Lightspeed

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
Well, provide some close up shots, I really don't see all those beautiful polies :)

(... and me wants to see them ;) )
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Offline Knight Templar

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Dear Heavenly Being, It's almost a render...
Have you seen the original? :wtf:
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