[Unknown Target]

How about this: put in some code that states that the engine should draw the player's ship model, even when in HUD view.

This would allow modelers to simply put the cockpit into the actual model, then put the model eyepoint where the pilot's head would be.

Think this is a good idea?

EDIT: And to help framerates, maybe make the engine only draw LOD1 or 2 in HUD view.

Of course, that would mean all modelers would have to high-detal their cockpits in LOD1 or 2, but I think it's an acceptable tradeoff in exchange for a cockpit

[RandomTiger]

This sounds familar....

[diamondgeezer]

UT, press *. Your ship view will have the HUD displayed over the top of it

[Taristin]

Err, but... that would make cocpit frames on the outside models of the ships flying around...

[diamondgeezer]

Er, no, cos you don't have the AI pilots flying that particular ship. Just make Alpha 1 a cockpit.

[Unknown Target]

No. I mean the cockpit is in the actual cockpit inside the ship.

Not floating around, the modeler builds the cockpit into where it should be on the ship.

And you don't reverse the polies on the windscreen, therefore, the engine won't draw them (because they're reversed).

[diamondgeezer]

Well that would work, except that drawing polys so close to the camera with (presumably) uber detailed texes would no doubt cause dodgyness

[Sticks]

Seeing as this has been brought up before, I'll only briefly go over it again.

Loading the cockpit into the lower end LODs is a hidous idea, because those LODs would then have more polygons than the max LOD because of how detailed cockpits need to be to look even decent. It would cause a massive slowdown in the game.

It was decided that a cockpit model would be too complicated, although a cockpit bitmap would be OK. I then said that if someone could make me a good cockpit bitmap that I would promise to implement it.

No one did.

[aldo_14]

I very busy.  I like much to make cockpit, but I got sod all time.  Thus I do sod all modelling.

[diamondgeezer]

Ah. It all makes sense now.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Sticks
Seeing as this has been brought up before, I'll only briefly go over it again.

Loading the cockpit into the lower end LODs is a hidous idea, because those LODs would then have more polygons than the max LOD because of how detailed cockpits need to be to look even decent. It would cause a massive slowdown in the game.

Iwar2 has an excellent cockpit. I can't imagine that its terribly high poly.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Sticks
Seeing as this has been brought up before, I'll only briefly go over it again.

Loading the cockpit into the lower end LODs is a hidous idea, because those LODs would then have more polygons than the max LOD because of how detailed cockpits need to be to look even decent. It would cause a massive slowdown in the game.

It was decided that a cockpit model would be too complicated, although a cockpit bitmap would be OK. I then said that if someone could make me a good cockpit bitmap that I would promise to implement it.

No one did.

Maybe it's, coz as I said before, making a 3D cockpit is easier than a 2D one. For a 2D one, you'll get a render from a 3D one, most likely. Weeee, that's great. You'd go for the 3d cockpit, you'd already have one ( I can make a good cockpit with nice maps in one day, no prob ).

[TrashMan]

Just stick a 3D cockpit model in front of the camera in 1st person wiev.

[KARMA]

well, you can make a 2d excellent cockpit, even without rendering from a 3d one, and it will surely look even better than a low poly 3d one (if you are good enough), but it would also take an incredible amount of time

[Sticks]

Just stick a 3D cockpit model in front of the camera in 1st person wiev.

Can I have that in C?

[Unknown Target]

Here's an idea for the seperate cockpit model.

Rather than having the model flying around in front of the ship, which would be the current problem, how about, in the ships.tbl, each entry references each ship's respective cockpit.

Say:

$Cockpit: cockpit.pof

or $Cockpit: Null

if you don't want a cockpit.

[Flipside]

Originally posted by Sticks


Can I have that in C?

[Terorist]

Yeah, a separate cockpit model would be a clean solution - you could use a generic cockpit with all ships, none of them or anything from between, plus stick new ones to the ships you want to use them with. Assuming someone actually does the C part.

[Drew]

Originally posted by Sticks


Can I have that in C?

no ****

[J3Vr6]

potty mouth...