[WMCoolmon]

Can ambient lighting be put back in by default?

[Carl]

technically, it can, but it won't.

[Lightspeed]

implement the slider & command line setting puhleeaaazeee!

[Nico]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Can ambient lighting be put back in by default?

hell no ( not to the possibility, to the request ).

[Flipside]

Agreed, but we need that slider option in Fred

Flipside

[Taristin]

...why? It looks so much better without it...

[Flipside]

Because people wishing to do missions, for example deep inside a Nebula or near to a planet will want ambient lighting. It'd look a bit odd to have a massive planet filling half the screen and yet it appearing to reflect no light whatsoever.

[IceFire]

Ambient lighting should have a slider control with RGB values allowing you to set ambient light to 0 or to 255 in all three color categories.  So your nebula can cover you in a red light or the dead of space can be completely dead.

I have a large problem with absolutely black surfaces on the sides of ships...very counter-intuitive to a video game I do like having it much darker than what is present in FS2 by default (which is too bright).

[RandomTiger]

I'm not a fan of some of the new strong lighting, I dont think its very subtle so I was going to take a look at making an alternitive.
In the original campaign it leads to mission after mission all being bright red.

When / if I get round to it (I have bugs to swash first) my system would be optional, off by default.

If anyone wishes to discuss any changes or options that they would like to see that are relevent to this then my e-mail is avalible through my profile. If you post replys in the forum I may miss it.

Also note I dont intend to make any structural changes to the code, just offer a differently balanced set of factors on the existing features, ie dont me ask for anything new.

EDIT: All above is irrelevent if putting back ambient lighting fixes it, is there a flag for that then?

[Bobboau]

the deep red can be fixed with a table edit, we need to orgabize a better general material system, something that doesn't involve setting a hand full of globals to tell wich texture goes were

[Bobboau]

and this should be a poll, wich is more astheticly pleaseing FS with or without ambient light

[Taristin]

Without.

[Flipside]

Depends what you are doing, take my skyboxes for example, you wouldn't believe how wierd a ship looks when lit from one side only in them!

[Bobboau]

then put in another sun, add one to your stars table

[RandomTiger]

How hard is it to put this on a flag change Bob?
I dont care if its default off, I just want the choice.
Any general pointers would be useful, I've barely looked at the lighting code.

[Bobboau]

I think there is on in the mission already

[RandomTiger]

Cant we just take the red values (I assume are coming from the sun colour) and scale down their intensity?

[Bobboau]

there is an optional string for setting a diferent specular value for any sun

[Galemp]

In my opinion, the ambient light level should default to whatever retail FS2 was, and be adjustable in FRED. Playing the main campaign in FSOpen should look and play the same as FS Retail, unless the user or campaign designer chooses to have enhancements. Since it's purely subjective, leave it the way Volition had it.

Same goes for Shivan AI (should be reverted unless otherwise specified) and shinemapping (off by default unless it finds a shine map.)

[Woolie Wool]

Originally posted by Galemp
In my opinion, the ambient light level should default to whatever retail FS2 was, and be adjustable in FRED. Playing the main campaign in FSOpen should look and play the same as FS Retail, unless the user or campaign designer chooses to have enhancements. Since it's purely subjective, leave it the way Volition had it.

Same goes for Shivan AI (should be reverted unless otherwise specified) and shinemapping (off by default unless it finds a shine map.)

The ambient light should be able to be set to anything from zero to really really bright. For example, an atmosphere will scatter light everywhere, which means that if your doing atmospheric missions with skyboxes, ambient light is a must.