[Odyssey]

[color=cc9900]I'd really have to be flying around it to get a good impression of what it 'feels' like in-game. So we'll see, I suppose [/color]

[TrashMan]

I couldn't wait...so I did the whole ship this afternoon. It looks impressive in-game.





I was so buisy looking at the ship that a cruiser got me good...

[Liberator]

Looks good, mostly whats been said already, but increase the angle of deflection on the lower hull some.  Bring it closer to 45 degrees.  Also, if you're going to have and uber-beam on the front or even a large one you might want to maybe give an indication of the ship being built around firing mechanisms for the beam.

It screams Frigate at me, mostly because it looks to big to be a Corvette and as far as I can tell it doesn't have a fighter bay, so it's not a destroyer.  So Frigate, definately Frigate.

[Baron MacDoblin]

I'll concede that it looks a lot better in game mapped, IMHO. I'd still do a bit of chamfering on the hull - nothing major, mind you, just to take the edges off a little. Boxy is good, but I've yet to see any ship that really looks like a box (minus a Borg cube, and even that has its smoother points).

And I still think more visible missile launchers are in order

[Noise]

As for designation, it screams battleship to me.  Frigates (FS2 at any rate) aren't much bigger than corvettes.  Calling it a battlecruiser brings about an image of a really mean cruiser, take the Aldo's GTWC Orc for example.  The Paladin is larger than a destroyer, but doesn't mount a fighter bay.  From what I've seen, it's all armour and guns, that means battleship, IMO that is.

[Star Dragon]

Two questions, do you HAVE to use open to use this or will it run in vanilla fs2? (I have your previous version that does)..

  and second, since you liek this kind of design, even consider doing other "space battleships"? like the Kariyu! Here are some beauty shots, you can never have too many weapons

http://photo.starblvd.net/Star_Dragon/5-5-1-1073688320?m=0&pg=4&ro=4&co=0

http://photo.starblvd.net/Star_Dragon/5-4-4-1073688255?m=0&pg=4&ro=3&co=3

http://photo.starblvd.net/Star_Dragon/5-5-2-1073688357?m=0&pg=4&ro=4&co=1

http://photo.starblvd.net/Star_Dragon/5-4-5-1073688285?m=0&pg=4&ro=3&co=4

  Sweet huh? l8tr..

[TrashMan]

Will you have to use Open for it? Hmmm....
It has overall 15 multi-part turrets, so I think you will need the version with upped limits at least....

Looks sweet...but I don't think I will be doing it...

As for the designation - Battlecruiser sounds good to me. The Iowa is the battleship and the Exfcalibur is the frigate, so those designations have allready been taken. It's FS who actually de-graded the term cruiser...hmmm...
Perhaps I could make the Iowa a heavy battleship..that would clear the designation for the paladin...well see

It doesn't have a uber-beam in front...just a normal BGreen.

More chamfering? I'm trying to make a playable ship here, not a 100000000poly model... Well..perhaps if I make a version of it for Freelancer....

Argh..I'm not sure myself...

[Odyssey]

Originally posted by TrashMan
It's FS who actually de-graded the term cruiser...

[color=cc9900]That doesn't mean you need to confuse people by changing it back though.[/color]

[TrashMan]

no..I didn't..I just made a big difference between a cruiser and a battlecruiser..

Oh well...I'll probably name it a batttleship in the end...

[Odyssey]

[color=cc9900]Why not just call it a 'destroyer', though? I don't see why new ship classes have to be invented just because it doesn't have a fighter bay...[/color]

[TrashMan]

Coause it's too powerfull to be a destroyer.

Odyssey, you seem to have become my favorite critic!:D
It's good to know one is actually noticed....

[TrashMan]

Argh....why is this happening?

It's either something wrong with PCS, or with Modelview!!!

Tuurets are getting screwed up! I doublechecked the turrets, everything is in order - every part is properly named and the axis are o.k.

Once I edit the turret data in Pcs, I look at the ship in Modelview and I see that fireing points are all over the place.
For simple turrets they are o.k., but big turrets and missile launchers get completely mixed up.

The points for TurretMed01 swoh up below TurretMed03, the fire points for the missile launcher show up in the  centre of the ship..

What gives!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[Noise]

Murphy's Law, that's what.  Whatever can go wrong, will.

[TrashMan]

Dang...this is the secons problem like this...alltough I moved the problem question to another thread...

[Havock]

you can solve the engine problem by sticking up a couple of massive boosters on the sides of the ship, poiting 45 degress backwars or so.

*get up paint*

i think it should be something like this, open up front section to give the idea there is "something" there.

also, the lower part looks like a mere copy of the upper part, make i a bit shark-like.

it has the overall shape, it should look far more agressive, and looking at what you already did, that should not prove too difficult for you.
overall, good design, but a bit too "tame", *paint done*

how's this?

[TrashMan]

Nice!

Alltough I doubt I will use it.

1. The Cobra is the dedicated Big-gun-in-the-nose-badassship

2. The main turrets deliver most of the punishment

3. I don't see why some people think the engines are too small...the're big enough...ever heard of efficency?

Alltough I must say that design does intruige me a little...
Maby I even might try something like that..after I finish all the other ships

[Odyssey]

[color=cc9900]The engines are too small. Of course there's something called efficiency, but let's put it this way - however much writing you put in a description explaining everything, it doesn't stop it looking wrong.[/color]

[TrashMan]

It looks wrong in you eyes only.
I don't see no reason why engines on capship have to be half the size of a ship. Look at the engines on Vasudan ships...they're smaller than those on Terran ones.

[Shinobi]

They're supposed to have better reactors I think

[aldo_14]

Vasudan engines are built more into the hull, covered by the organic 'flow' of the hull.  Terran ships have a less organic, arty design and are more exposed.

Although I don't see a great size difference, anyways.

Originally posted by Noise
 Calling it a battlecruiser brings about an image of a really mean cruiser, take the Aldo's GTWC Orc for example.  The Paladin is larger than a destroyer, but doesn't mount a fighter bay.  From what I've seen, it's all armour and guns, that means battleship, IMO that is.

Which one?  There's three of the things, now.....

what about 'dreadnaught'? (Dn)