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Offline Beowulf

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on: December 30, 2003, 07:18:25 pm
Space. What is awaiting us? Why won't we leave Earth? Why won't we reach out and grasp what is waiting for us? Garr! We had the technology in 1969 to go to Mars! Why haven't we left yet?

Triton


Mars


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Europa


Io


And yes, that's a real crater. And yes, thats a volcanic eruption on Jupiter's moon Io.

EDIT: Don't miss the last Mars picture.
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Never Forget

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                               --Beowulf

"... and no, real life sex is not just a myth. You just need to come out of your house once every while..." ~Tiara

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Offline aldo_14

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Reply #1 on: December 30, 2003, 07:22:06 pm
Becauuse we'd end up landing in a crater and getting lost

:)

Seriously, we're still a bit off of being ready to go to Mars, IMO.  I think the amount of supllies required for a trip - with current propulsion tech - would cause major difficulties in building a suitable spacecraft.

Truth is, we should have been planning to go to Mars 20 years ago.  Now it might never happen in my lifetime.....
 

Offline Beowulf

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Reply #2 on: December 30, 2003, 07:24:26 pm
Read Mars Direct by Robert Zubrin.

All the questions you will ever have are answered.
All the reasons for going are given.
One of my favorite books, a must read.

Here's a little intro: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=00087E38-5B46-1C75-9B81809EC588EF21
Never Forget

"It is always better to avenge dear ones than to induldge in mourning. For every one of us, living in this world means waiting for our end. Let whoever can win glory before death. When a warrior is gone, that will be his best and only bulwark."
                               --Beowulf

"... and no, real life sex is not just a myth. You just need to come out of your house once every while..." ~Tiara

YeeeeHoooooh! is the mood of the day. :p
 

Offline aldo_14

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Reply #3 on: December 30, 2003, 07:27:35 pm
Only need one reason -

We've never been before

Simple as that.
 

Offline Odyssey

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Reply #4 on: December 30, 2003, 07:32:12 pm
[color=cc9900]There is no point in sending humans to Mars, as it would just be another country trying to prove itself - the political climate isn't like what it was during the Cold War any more. Unless you're China.[/color]
 

Offline vyper

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Reply #5 on: December 30, 2003, 07:34:02 pm
What about human achievement?
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Offline Odyssey

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Reply #6 on: December 30, 2003, 07:48:18 pm
[color=cc9900]What, proving we've finally got around to doing something we had the ability to do for ages, and then only doing it for the hell of it? Fair representation of humans, I suppose.[/color]
 

Offline Beowulf

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Reply #7 on: December 30, 2003, 08:15:33 pm
Read Mars Direct. Mars is an economic stimulus package if I've ever seen one.

And if all else fails... what about for fun?
Never Forget

"It is always better to avenge dear ones than to induldge in mourning. For every one of us, living in this world means waiting for our end. Let whoever can win glory before death. When a warrior is gone, that will be his best and only bulwark."
                               --Beowulf

"... and no, real life sex is not just a myth. You just need to come out of your house once every while..." ~Tiara

YeeeeHoooooh! is the mood of the day. :p
 

Offline Flaser

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Reply #8 on: December 30, 2003, 08:20:58 pm
no commenr on my part
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Offline Odyssey

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Reply #9 on: December 30, 2003, 08:24:58 pm
[color=cc9900]There are practical reasons why it isn't exactly safe to send even a small nuclear reactor into space...[/color]
 

Offline jdjtcagle

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Reply #10 on: December 30, 2003, 08:31:15 pm
Go to the NASA website and ask them yourself. I asked them these very same questions and they told me it was extremely expensive for this kind of things. We are in dept and NASA gets very little money from the government anymore.:)

Somewhere along those lines and yes that is the anwer to your questions. let me find a link.
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Offline Bobboau

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Reply #11 on: December 30, 2003, 09:37:52 pm
are we there yet?

I heard Bush is trying to do something with finaly getting us that moon base we've been eyeing for the last 30 years. and I think there is a mars trip involved somehow.. it was in a law passed not to long ago
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Offline Thorn

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Reply #12 on: December 30, 2003, 09:58:16 pm
He was talking about using the moon as a launchpad to mars or somesuch thing...
 

Offline jdjtcagle

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Reply #13 on: December 30, 2003, 10:04:33 pm
They want to use the moon for a launch pad because it would be a lot less expensive for the fuel. I mean
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Offline Odyssey

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Reply #14 on: December 30, 2003, 10:12:03 pm
[color=cc9900]They'd have to persuade the moon-dwellers to buy Shell franchises.[/color]
 

Offline aldo_14

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Reply #15 on: December 31, 2003, 05:25:08 am
Someone at Nasa told Bush he could mine the moon for cheese.
  

Offline Singh

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Reply #16 on: December 31, 2003, 06:21:08 am
I would say first send more Robots to mars and experiment with different, faster ways to send things there.

Nuclear reactors ought to be used in spaced- maybe if they were taken up in small components and built over the VERY long term, it may be a bit safer? The only dangerous component might be taking up the Uranium I think, although correct me if I am wrong about this.
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Offline Carl

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Reply #17 on: December 31, 2003, 06:45:12 am
the main problem as far as i know is that a ship wouldn't have enough fuel to escape both earth's and mars' gravity in one trip. there's a proposed plan where they can make the fuel on mars, butg it's complicated, and if one thing goes wrong, that's 3 or so astronauts and several billion dollars down the drain.
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Offline Flaser

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Reply #18 on: December 31, 2003, 07:10:42 am
That's why the plan involved 3 separate ERV spaceships - 1 sent ahead, 1 travelling with the astronauts, and 1 that can be sent after them if all fails - and the astronauts would have enough supplies to last even until a 4th ERV is sent to them.
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Offline jdjtcagle

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Reply #19 on: December 31, 2003, 11:01:27 am
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Originally posted by Singh
I would say first send more Robots to mars and experiment with different, faster ways to send things there.
 


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